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[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 121 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is Sony saying piracy is justified by making it not possible to buy this game? I guess if I have to.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

How many are pirating it in solidarity? I'd rather reject their anti-libre software entirely, make them irrelevant.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 59 points 1 year ago

Non-PSN country users be like Go-Go Gadget FitGirl

[–] Shayeta@feddit.de 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ha! I remember the devs tweeting during the Helldivers 2 fiasco barely a week ago that they WOULDN'T require a PSN account for PC. What a bunch of shameless liars.

[–] Aielman15@lemmy.world 95 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not the devs' fault, it's Sony.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were told one thing three days ago, and another one now.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The difference is that Helldivers 2 was already a released game; people had paid for a product which was going to be taken away from them. After all the controversy, Sony decided not to follow through with that plan and let people keep what they already had.

This is still scummy, but with Ghost of Tsushima, no one has received anything yet. People put in an order, the order was canceled, and money refunded, so in practical terms there is no loss...other than not being able to buy the game.

It may be possible to set your account to a different region and purchase anyways, but in my opinion, piracy is absolutely justified in this case when the vendor literally refuses to make a product available to you. If there's no legal option for obtaining it, then there's no harm in pirating it.

[–] applepie@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Piracy is always justified.

You want my money, you need to earn it, shiti business doesn't get rewarded.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If they would have put up a banner in the game or a popup every log in stating ..

"Sony account requirement temporarily suspended.

Please note that in a future update this will be a hard requirement and you will not be able to play Helldivers without a PSN account".

Then this would not have been an issue. The question is if their game would have gotten as big as it did. I'll bet 'no'.

Also how fucking lame is the playstation network that they still cannot handle proper game launches.. ffs this should be a non issue by now. The servers that handle this should be setup to spin up and down clones when needed... But nooooo that costs extra money.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It would have still been an issue because the root of the problem is that there are a lot of regions where PSN is not supported and you can't make an account even if you wanted to. The game was being sold on Steam in those regions, and so in practice it would have been like saying:

Please note that in a future update we will take away your ability to play with no recourse unless Valve is willing to refund your purchase. Take it up with them.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Absolutely. The region not being limited is a big indicator on intent. Or it's the dev that "forgot" and got more sales.

I'm curious how many copies are sold in regions no longer supported.

[–] BrowseMan@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

To be fair, thy said the one player game campaign doesn't need it, but multiplayer did.

That's still the case and that's why steam is giving refund: people are basically buying the game with part missing.

[–] caut_R@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Helldivers‘ success somehow caused a crazy knee jerk reaction among the management suits at Sony. This whole sudden „make a PSN account or fuck you“ is just bizarre. To me it seems like they’ve lost more than what they‘re hoping to gain from this. Just a mindboggling move.

[–] Untitled4774@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Definitely. They’ve gone for the stick instead of the carrot if they’re looking to juice PSN numbers, and gamers are a notoriously outspoken bunch.

How they thought this would just fly without an uproar after such a great launch is way beyond me.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I think the issue is, asking people to set up PSN was the plan all along - and they somewhat ineptly realized months after their hit game’s release that caused a problem for Steam users not in PSN countries.

Xbox and EA all require accounts for their games too, but they’ve done that forever, and are a bit more territory-neutral.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 9 points 1 year ago

Please make sure that they also refund you the interest on the money. Although preordering games is pretty lame imo, companies should be punished for going back on preorders, better yet have to make it work no holds barred.