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[–] muertinez@lemmy.world 250 points 1 year ago (3 children)

i think people underestimate the impact having access to wikipedia has had on the world. really an amazingly important part of the internet and the sharing of knowledge

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Going down a Wikipedia rabbit hole is worse than going down a Street View rabbit hole. Ahh I can spend an entire day doing it!

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good old wiki walking, you never realize what you're doing until a few hours in, and even then you can't stop.

[–] matti@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago

Or the high speed car chase equivalent of it, find hitler

[–] Bilbo@hobbit.world 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're right, although if you ever get the chance to browse a real physical encyclopedia, it's a unique experience.

Not practical, but it's a bit like playing a record or playing a game on a real NES. It's a unique experience.

I have a full 2007 set of Encyclopedia Brittanica in the same room as my vintage computer collection. I browse it occasionally.

[–] 1st@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oof, felt this right in the geriatric millennials.

Mfer I was doing assignments where I had to scroll through index cards to find the encyclopaedia, then hand write out the essay.

It’s weird when you go from being the disruptor demographic to realising that when your 5 yo kid jokes about the 80s it’s as far away in time to him as the 1940s we’re to me - for him it’s a 2d, pre-Alexa, analog dystopia.

And I’m only 42.

[–] bigredcar@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bought several physical encyclopedias as a a result of my Wikipedia addiction. Having physical encyclopedias to fall back on is a plus, as their information can't be taken down by deletionists. I also got the Encarta isos off archive.org running in 86box.

[–] mochi@lemdit.com 6 points 1 year ago

I got suckered by an encyclopedia salesman when I was younger. It was one of the biggest wastes of money of my young life. I had no need for it at that time and later, when I could have used it, I had the internet (or Internet with a capital I back then) and college libraries.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just love the fact that Jimmy Wales started Wikipedia using the money he made in softcore internet porn.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jimmy Wales does sound like a porn name.

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[–] WidowsFavoriteSon@lemmy.world 133 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I really enjoy Mastodon so much more than twitter

[–] hansl@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Unpopular opinion? Mastodon is a better Twitter than Lemmy is a better Reddit.

So many duplicated communities in Lemmy makes managing subscription impossible.

[–] DooDeeDoo@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Reddits quality main appeal also is its past threads whereas on Twitter is rarely about what was tweeted but rather what’s the latest thing that’s happening.

Lemmy will need time and it might never replace reddit. But I look forward to the quality interactions with everyone here!

[–] Dee@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Unpopular opinion? Mastodon is a better Twitter than Lemmy is a better Reddit.

That's not unpopular, that's just fact. I enjoy Lemmy but it's fairly new. Mastodon has been around for a while longer and is a much more mature platform with more QOL features because of that. Comparing them on that basis doesn't really prove or mean anything at this point. Of course the teenager is more developed than the toddler, that's how it works. Lemmy will get to the same place with time.

[–] JayPalm@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

From a product perspective, I really disagree.

Twitter’s value is/was that it was ubiquitous. Everyone (important) was there and it was the only Twitter-like thing that there was. Even the Pope tweets. I guarantee you the Pope will never be on Mastodon. Not that any of us necessarily care about updates from the Pope or Lebron James or whoever, but your favorite journalist was, and the developers of all your favorite indie iOS apps were, and if you live in a city, your local public transit authority was likely there as well. Twitter was really the only place for microblogging type of content.

On the other hand, Reddit is, by nature, just a centralized collection of forums, which I think is far more easily recreated in a decentralized way. You already have posts organized into communities, now with Lemmy we’re just adding another layer of organization on top of that. As another commenter said, much of Reddit’s value is that it was the place where someone asked the same question you now have and so you can read those answers, but Twitter’s value really is for real time communications.

The issue I see with both frankly is search. It can be kinda hard with either to find the community/discussions that are interesting and relevant to you, but hopefully that will improve.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guarantee you the Pope will never be on Mastodon

Doubt that. Vatican uses Linux, if it gets popular enough they're for sure going to have their own Mastodon instance. When you're a big org like them, control matters more than dollar amounts. A recruiting and comms tool that they own end-to-end, except for the protocol (that they can block or mod anytime)? They'd love it. Having a Vatican.va Mastodon handle if you work for them would probably carry cachet with Catholics.

[–] JayPalm@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’re insane if you actually believe that this will happen, but also I hope it does. I reckon they’re more likely to change their position on homosexuality.

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[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They are not duplicated (just the same name) and it's not impossible to subscribe to them all with a few clicks.

Use https://lemmyverse.net/communities and simply search for communities and subscribe to them.

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[–] moitoi@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The quality of the discussion is miles away from Twitter. People are nice and a lot less of toxicity. Mastodon is amazing as Lemmy.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was a scientific paper I read semi recently that showed that researchers who post on Mastodon get much higher quality interaction than on Twitter (and I think a few other social-media type places, but it was mainly Mastodon vs Twitter). There was overall less interaction on Mastodon (unsurprisingly), but also that this difference has been diminishing as Mastodon grows. My takeaway is that if you want engagement, go Mastodon.

[–] moitoi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I highly prefer quality to quantity. It's better for then mental health.

[–] SpezCanLigmaBalls@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How do you find good people to follow? There aren’t all too many meme or comedy accounts and that really all I’m looking for. It seems pretty serious on there unless I’m just being dumb. I’m on mastadon.social

I’m also seeing a bunch of posts not in English, sometimes nearly half so that gets annoying

[–] moitoi@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

You need to follow hashtags and groups related to your interest. Groups will boost the toots and make them visible. When you follow a group, it's like following hundreds of people at once.

When tooting, you have to mention groups and not only hashtags. The groups will boost the toot for visibility.

It's a vit of practice with groups and hashtags.

[–] Stefh@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should try changing instance. I started on mastodon.social and had the same problem as you. Find an instance that meets your interests and sign in. Then you can transfer your followers (only your followers, that's not really good 🫤)

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[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago

This is great to see. I love when big players make moves into the fediverse, because it educates the masses. I'm a nobody on the internet advocating for privacy, security, and ethical social media... and I can advocate til my fingers bleed.

But when companies, publications, celebrities, and others of influence do this, it creates awareness and opens their mind up a bit into the platforms, why they're important, etc. And even if they don't understand federation at first, at least it's a touchpoint. A bit of exposure into how we can have a better, open, and private web.

[–] ngcbassman@sh.itjust.works 88 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm just going to take the opportunity to talk about that Wikipedia is free, it doesn't have advertisement, all the data is freely accesible and your privacy is respected, is just maintained by donations and the community. Just looking around other platforms I think they do an amazing job, so consider to donate today to keep it that way.

[–] ruk_n_rul@monyet.cc 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

they have more than enough money to keep the server running for decades. not to say you don't need to donate, but you don't need to impulse donate every time the big header appears.

[–] ngcbassman@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

To be fully transparent I donate 1 dollar a day, I just appreciate what they do, and I would like to have more services that are able to keep it that way, sadly that is not the case.

[–] revlayle@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I donate about 100 USD a year, give or take. I figured it's worth it for as much as I use Wikipedia

[–] mnejing@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

As someone who can't afford to donate, I appreciate you.

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[–] LemmyRefugee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

When I get their email every year asking me to repeat my donation it seems like they are a bit in trouble. They are not?

[–] tasbir49@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 year ago

This adds a lot of legitimacy to the fediverse

[–] arc@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago

I think all big orgs, NGOs, news agencies should do this.

[–] Jarmer@slrpnk.net 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

that's excellent! I wonder if they'll keep their WT Social network going. Does anyone use it?

[–] clgoh@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't really use it, but I noticed that they just launched a new version. https://wts2.wt.social

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

I was wondering if they might port it to an ActivityPub instance

[–] Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is facebook/threads actually connected yet?

I know a lot of orgs are gravitating toward blue skies (where you can pay extra to get your own domain name?) but this is 100% what I would hope basically every major org is planning on.

Why put yourself at the mercy of a billionaire abuser with a pregnancy fetish? Just host your own server and let everyone else connect to you. Pay for ads on whatever instances/interfaces benefit you, but there is absolutely zero reason to allow ANYONE else to control or host your hot arby's memes and the like.

And, if threads does enable the connection? This is actually what people have claimed they wanted for years. Post to one "service" and it appears everywhere. Because it doesn't matter if mas.to or mastodon.social connect to facebook. They'll connect to you and you can connect to both. Instant coverage without needing to use fancy multi-post systems.

[–] bric@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

iirc they haven't connected to anything yet, and nobody is actually quite sure what it'll look like when they do. A few instances have defederated from threads already, but they're totally just guessing because nobody actually knows what url they should be defederating from.

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[–] Blaze@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago

Great news!

[–] Armadous@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just realized it’s fediverse, I’ve been reading it as frediverse.

[–] Dee@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There should be an instance of just Freds that's called the Frediverse. You have to send them ID to prove your name is actually Fred and only Freds are allowed on the instance. I'd follow those communities as a non-Fred.

[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] coldv@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Ooooh!! This is exciting!

[–] Cabeza2000@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I have a Mastodon account since May 2022 but didn't really use it.

I recently tried to see if I find interesting accounts to follow but didn't find much that fit my interests.

Any advice on how to find good accounts to follow?

[–] xapr@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago

Search for hashtags first, like #TopicOfInterestToMe. Follow those. Then, look for people who post interesting stuff in the hashtags you follow. Follow them. The trick to Mastodon is to follow, follow, follow. This may also be a good starting point to find interesting people to follow: https://fedi.directory/

[–] TacoEvent@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Curating your follows does take a minute in the beginning. This is a good starting point: https://discover.fedified.com/

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[–] Treebeard@monero.town 9 points 1 year ago

Beautiful to see Wikipedia throwing their weight into it! Just beautiful to see this spiraling.

[–] nix@merv.news 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope custom algorithms become an option. I like chronological feeds but would love to have chronological feeds that show me a post based on my likes after 3 posts or so. It would make it much easier to discover new blender artists like is possible on twitter

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