Well, I don’t want AI and Robotics, so that was easy.
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Counteroffer: we launch him into the sun for free.
Counter-counteroffer: we have him blast himself into the sun and he foots the bill.
You’re a tough negotiator. Approved.
Zaaannnng
I propose that he gives me his money and then fucks off to the desert on Mars.
It just occurred to me: How many of our problems could be solved if we just started throwing them into the sun?
Unfortunately, very few: https://www.nasa.gov/solar-system/its-surprisingly-hard-to-go-to-the-sun/
They didn’t say “if we could throw them into the sun”, they clearly have a teleporter that allows throwing things into the sun, it’s just how many problems would we solve if we did so.
Technically? All of them.
Far cheaper to launch them into a slowly degrading low earth orbit and let them burn up on reentry.
It'd be cheaper to send him out if the solar system though
But then he might come back
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It's so illegal I think it might even be sufficient to pierce the corporate veil and charge Musk directly with attempted blackmail. I mean, that's what he's trying to do - blackmail and extort Tesla shareholders.
It only took one shareholder to sue and invalidate his last compensation package. I suspect that same shareholder or a few others are game to try it again, especially if this time it’s coming from a more direct threat to the company and those shares’ value.
As if he personally has AI and robotics in his pocket, and all the people working for him are vacuous without him.
I may have some names and details wrong here, but Elon is not the brains of AI.
He did start Open AI to find some people with the brains.
Andrej Karpathy was the mastermind of Tesla's FSD. He left the company after it was clear his developments would get FSD solved with enough data and compute. He's no longer at Tesla, but it is primarity his work that everything is based on.
Jim Keller was lead developer of the FSD inferrence chip I think. He also helps develop chips for Apple and Intel. He is not at Tesla.
Emil Talpes is lead architect of Dojo chip
Ganesh Venkataramanan is lead architect of Dojo supercomputer system
What we can credit Elon with is telling folks to make a robo taxi back in 2015 and paying people to do it, but thats about it. Keep in mind he became the richest man in the world for doing this. He doesnt need more compensation at the expense of Tesla and its shareholders.
If Elon died today Tesla would be just fine. I'd argue even better.. A lot of folks I talk to think Teslas are cool cars, but hate Elon's toxic personality and fear his attacks on free speech. They don't want to support such a maniacal weirdo.
These bitches ain't shit with out their pimp daddy!
Back up off the pipe Elmo!
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Ok. Deal. You don't get 25%, and you can cram your next grift up your Boring hole.
This really looks like another one of those times that Elon's big stupid mouth is going to get him in trouble just because he doesn't know when to shut the actual fuck up.
When has that ever happened? The man has never faced a meaningful consequence in his entire life, that's why he's so awful.
He was forced to buy Twitter. He never wanted it and his bluff got called.
And that had zero negative impact on him. He still had enough money left over to live a million years in opulent wealth.
On one hand he's still rich enough to drive 5 golden Tesla's tied together and when they run out of juice call 5 golden helicopters tied together to come pick him up.
On the other, its definitely been a PR nightmare for him and I think a significant amount of trust has been lost in his magic touch, which money can't buy back. Tesla stock can be seen as faith in Elon himself, and its been on a downward trend since this Twitter stuff started. Alltime high of 407 in November 2021. 328 by the time the sale went through in April 2022... 175 right now.
I'm hopeful if it crashes into the ground we get EV's that don't suck ass and are cheap enough to compete with dino juice cars. My cynical ass is of the opinion that Tesla falling apart will just mean EV's as a whole will fall apart, as they're practically synonymous.
TSLA was massively over-inflated before the Twitter deal. I guess part of that was because of the hype he had surrounding his image. But Tesla was due for a correction, especially with other manufacturers bringing more EVs into the market. I think Musk continuing to make very public idiotic statements has hurt his reputation among regular people and investors more than his stupid Twitter deal did, and he was going to continue doing that regardless. I admit that I could be wrong, but I think his mouth and his ego have cost him a lot more than the Twitter deal did.
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There's never any consequences though, he keeps failing up. Hopefully the shareholders call his bluff, but a lot of them buy into the Musk mythos.
Is this a thing in business? Do you actually ever threaten your shareholders like that? I am seriously curious here.
It's shareholders vs shareholder. Leverage is derived by stake
Wah wah I've blown loads of money buying a dying social media brand and driving it into the ground.
Give me more money now or I won't use my special money making powers to make this company more money.
Legal or not. Does anyone have any idea what these AI and robotics things, that only Elon holds and were developed by him completely separate to Tesla, are?
It's Elon, he thinks he has the execution capacity to bring it to Tesla. He's been saying for years: in 2021 there will be robo taxis. It never happened and never will for Tesla. They need a sub $25k vehicle and always have and he fucked it up. If the cyber truck was half the size and not made of stainless it would have been around $25k probably. Get fucked Elon.
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Seems like evidence for an incoming shareholder lawsuit
Shouldn't have sold all those shares then. Is he too poor to buy them back?
You mean AI like Full Self Driving that you’ve been promising and failing to deliver for how many years now?
I don't think the world or anyone but Elon's sycophants are looking forward to the shoddy AI and shoddy (remote controlled by humans) robotics that he will be capable of.
...from him. No great loss
Wait don’t threaten me with a good time
When you’re rich and famous they let you do that
No, they don't.
Otherwise he could have weaseled his way out of buying Twitter.
Promise? Deal.
What a dick
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