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Earlier on Thursday, Rolling Stone published allegations from two current and 14 former employees, including production crew and writers, who requested anonymity out of fear of retaliation. Rolling Stone claimed they had approached an additional 80 current and former employees, but “not a single one agreed to speak on the record or had positive things to say about working on the Tonight Show”.

According to Rolling Stone’s report, multiple sources alleged Fallon had a history of “outbursts” and lashing out at staff when under pressure; that previous senior staff on the show had bullied and belittled them; and that guests’ dressing rooms were commonly known as “cry rooms”, where employees could go let out their stress.

Nine showrunners have worked on the Tonight Show since Fallon took over from Jay Leno in 2014; a much faster turnover than comparable late night shows like Late Night with Seth Meyers and The Late Show With Stephen Colbert.

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[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 122 points 1 year ago (16 children)

They should have given it to Conan when they had the chance but they keep insisting on giving it to soulless narcissists like Leno and Fallon.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 104 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This, Conan has always been infinitely funnier, and he still has employees that followed him from the Late Night show that seem to love working with him

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[–] PapaStevesy@midwest.social 59 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They did give it to Conan, then they gave it back to Jay. Like everything else wrong in my life, I blame the boomers.

[–] victron@programming.dev 17 points 1 year ago

Oooh yes, they did Conan sooo dirty during that clusterfuck.

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[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 83 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Whether this is a "hit piece" or not, I have never found Fallon funny in the slightest bit and absolutely hate the entire late night talk show format. It's just sucking up to celebrities for 2 goddamn hours. Utterly fake conversations with fake people trying to plug their latest projects. Every thing about it annoys the fuck out of me.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm the same, except when Conan does it. But also Conan could read out my tax returns and it'd be hilarious.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Conan has his moments, but I much rather see him write/act in skits about current events than sucking up to celebrities. Peak Conan was when he was still fresh from being a writer for The Simpsons, and I seem to find him less and less funny as the years go on.

[–] GONADS125@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd recommend giving his travel show "Conan Obrien Must Go" a shot. More just Conan being Conan and it's great.

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[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

I've been really liking his podcast. He still has celebrities on, but the idea is that it's more people he wants to talk to rather than people promoting stuff, or people he had on his show who he never got to have a proper conversation with and he'll sit with them to a proper in-depth talk for like an hour or so. And sometimes they'll do an episode where just a random member of the public calls in and he interviews them instead. Also one of his co-hosts is his assistant who does not respect his position as her boss at all, so that's a good dynamic.

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[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Conan has admitted that he can't turn it off.

If you see him at a restaurant, he will accidentally ignore his family to to entertain you. He mentions his wife hates it.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I sat next to him and his wife at a restaurant about 6 years ago. Now I'm personally offended he didn't ignore her to try to entertain me.

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I feel like you could ask Conan to be funny after you read 2 lines from anything and he'd knock it out. Recipe. Taxes. Obituary. Jimmy Fallon's set. Anything normally not funny at all

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[–] JustAManOnAToilet@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Give Craig Ferguson his time slot.

[–] tider06@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I'd start watching non-streaming TV again if Ferguson came back.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

I think he's said he never wanted the earlier time slot because the network would be too involved with the show.

"Tonight Show with Craig Ferguson" would just be like what Tonight Show has been for many decades with just the few flourishes here and there that the network would allow Ferguson to do.

With the 12:30 slot he could do whatever he wanted, the network didn't care. Which is what made his show the best talk show of all time.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I’ve always gotten strong Ellen vibes from Fallon.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I never understood how this unfunny douchebag got famous. Are people really fans of him or was having him TWO shows purely a studio decision? He was never funny on SNL.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought maybe it was just me, maybe I wasn't seeing something in 'slow jam the news' that was hilariously funny. But then he sucked up to Trump during the campaign in 2016 and I didn't give a fuck any more. Fuck him.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jimmy Fallon is all that awkwardness of Nathan Fielder minus the intent or semblence of humor. He is the most boring, lame host I have ever seen on a show like this and I find him painful to watch.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hence his prime spot. That’s why he’s famous. He’s milquetoast, he’s lowest common denominator, he’s white bread, he’s Big Bang Theory, hes Two and a Half Men, he’s a laugh track, he’s Jay Leno.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't asked everyone I know or anything but I've yet to meet someone who I know likes Jimmy Fallon.

I think he's way, way, WAYYY worse than Leno, though. At least he leads a somewhat interesting life (albeit not interesting to me). Like I would be surprised to hear that Jimmy Fallon has any hobbies.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don’t know anyone who likes big bang theory. But it’s the most popular show (or at least it was at some point). But there are sort of…layers/circles in which different types of people remain. The “Big Bang Theory” types hang out together, talk on Facebook, still use Reddit and mainly just subscribe to r/aww and r/funny, they go out to eat at the olive garden after church…that type of thing. Then there are the non-BBT types, that find a suitable instance on Lemmy and discuss how it’s possible people like jimmy fallon lol

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Totally. I said the same thing when someone posted a thread about his behavior yesterday. I got a real asshole sense from him.

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[–] CrunchyBoy@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago

"I'm sorry (this got out)."

[–] verysoft@kbin.social 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Guy is fake af, never understood the appeal of him or his show.

[–] GONADS125@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Absolutely.. And his obnoxious fake laughs are straight up nauseating...

[–] BedInspector@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I feel vindicated for strongly disliking him since SNL. Deuche bag ruined every single skit he was in. Absolute amateur laughing in every skit. Every time.

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[–] the_q@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm to the point where I just assume if you're a celebrity you're probably a piece of shit.

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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Fallon is one of the least funny people on the planet. I am not joking. His shit keeps getting brought up on my YouTube feed and it is just utter crap.

The only time I had to laugh at something he was involved in, was when he made a crossover with John Oliver. Fallon obviously tried to advertise for Amazons Alexa, when Oliver suddenly asked Alexa about the working conditions in Amazon Warehouses. Fallon immediately shit himself.

[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jimmy Fallon is a robot designed to laugh at people's jokes no matter how unfunny they are.

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[–] lapbar@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is hilarious if you’ve ever worked in Hollywood: An NBC spokesperson told the magazine: “As in any workplace, we have had employees raise issues; those have been investigated and action has been taken where appropriate. As is always the case, we encourage employees who feel they have experienced or observed behaviour inconsistent with our policies to report their concerns so that we may address them accordingly.”

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

report their concerns so that we may address them accordingly

Which means they will fire that person and make sure they never work in the industry again. That sounds like a cliche you hear in movies, but if you know people who work in Hollywood you know that it's a real thing.

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

And we always tell them, you can be honest. Don't worry, we won't "retaliate"

But why the quotes?

Oh, just for emphasis that we absolutely will "not retaliate or fire you immediately and spread rumors about you"

[–] Cjwii@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not trying to defend Jimmy Fallon, but is there a way to do a nightly television show for years on end that's healthy?

The constant demand to be fresh, funny, topical, appeal to advertisers, network execs and audience members. It's fucking insane how anyone can do it at all.

I'd imagine it takes it's toll on even the most level headed good people.

[–] MiltownClowns@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago

Most of the story might be construed as nothing but the show runner turn over raised red flags for me. Conan had the same show runner, Jeff Ross, for decades. Fallon can't keep a show runner for a year! On the Tonight Show! One of the most coveted show runner positions still left in Television. The fact that the most powerful people aside from fallon keep quietly leaving the show means to me that there is something rotten that they are all fleeing and keeping quite to protect their careers.

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[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not surprised, never could stand that guy.

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't hate him. Don't like him. I never found him as funny as Jimmy Fallon did either

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s suspicious that this has gone on for years, but the story is only being published now. Seems to have been common knowledge in Hollywood. Is it contract negotiation time? Did Fallon finally piss of the wrong person? Does NBC have someone already in mind to replace him?

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[–] pwalshj@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

He cancelled a Norm MacDonald appearance on his show for saying that he put Rosanne Barr and Louie C.K. in touch because of their shared experience. Like, a therapy thing. Jimmy claimed that a female his staff cried and locked herself in an office b/c of that. At least we know what room it was and what they were really crying about.

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