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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 134 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I’m sorry that guy was at a shooting but a visor with Trump 202~~0~~4 might be the most loser-coded thing I’ve ever seen. If you hold that visor up to your ear like a seashell, you can hear someone complaining about a family court judge ruling against him after he represented himself.

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 84 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Allow me to blow your mind. That’s not his real hair, it’s a hat that looks like a visor + Trump’s rug. Watch the video and it becomes clear.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How did it get worse?

Howwww?

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

David Cameron cant find where the bar is given this new low.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

In case anyone was wondering where that kid in your class who huffed glue is doing these days.

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[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 3 points 4 months ago

Well where else are you supposed to keep it?

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 129 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Maybe I’m crazy here but if I saw a dude with a rifle on a roof at a political rally I would 100% assume it was secret service. I don’t see much here that convinces me otherwise

Edit: there is some evidence that he may have been on a roof. It’s hard to get accurate information this soon after an incident so we’ll see in the coming days

Edit: yeah, pretty much confirmed it was the gunman, assuming this guy is talking about the right roof (secret service were on a different roof). I still stand by my original comment, I wouldn’t have thought anything of it if I saw it

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 47 points 4 months ago (3 children)

If they were in legit gear or a suit, I wouldn't think it was odd. Any other guy with a rifle would be a red fucking flag because plainclothes USSS have concealed guns and don't play on roofs.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 20 points 4 months ago

No. USSS Snipers are all over the place. Some visible most are not. In one of the videos you can clearly see a USSS sniper above stage right. That's the guy who took out the shooter.

[–] Kayday@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

I kind of doubt someone could have told what outfit the gunmen was wearing in that scenario.

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[–] teft@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And if you saw him getting into position mid speech that wouldn't strike you as odd? The shooter was seen low crawling into position. Secret Service shooters would be in place from the start not moving mid speech.

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

They're Trump supporters, their brain power is not what brought them to the rally.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah, I think that that's been normal for a long time. There are even pictures of the law enforcement on a rooftop at this rally with scoped rifles.

EDIT: One of the top posts on Reddit says that this is the shooter after having been shot. Assuming that is correct, gives an idea as to what he was wearing.

https://i.redd.it/4jm18y33gdcd1.jpeg

[–] Delta_V@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

That kind of uncertainty about if the shooter was part of the security detail or not may have been the source of hesitation that let him get shots off before immediately getting shot himself. The speed of the return fire makes it seem like someone was already pointing a gun at him and awaiting confirmation he wasn't supposed to be there.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That’s an interesting point. I’m sure they know where the others are but I’m sure there’s always a doubt

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 4 points 4 months ago

Considering how many different law enforcement agencies are in the US, who don't have comms with one another, yeah

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

Guess it was too much to expect a book depository to be near a GOP rally.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If true, a lot of heads are going to roll. That's a shocking lapse in security.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Dude is notorious for not paying people. Are we really that shocked security was a little loose?

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 30 points 4 months ago (2 children)

By security I meant Secret Service. I believe ex-presidents get a secret service detail.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

True, but security around the venue is paid by the RNC and his campaign. They have been known to stiff the bill.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

They do and I believe presidential candidates since RFK's assassination.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thing is he doesn't have to pay anything for security, secret service is paid by the government.

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[–] teft@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

This interview is nuts.

[–] NotAnotherLemmyUser@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Video of him on the roof just before everything went down (video blurs out the shooter during/after death):

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1812339055603978440

You can hear people yelling, "He's got a gun!" seconds before the shooting happens.

Another angle of people yelling "He's got a gun" (shaky cameraman, good for audio only): https://x.com/BNONews/status/1812327502028669328

Another witness that was also trying to point out the shooter to the authorities: https://x.com/BNONews/status/1812311392675914015

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 7 points 4 months ago

Pretty embarrassing for the secret service. This plus all their other fuckups and shenanigans these past 12 years should lead to some serious reforms.

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