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Former President Donald Trump spent nearly an hour at his Palm Beach, Florida, social club on Thursday ranting to a room full of reporters as he tries to grab the spotlight from a resurgent Democratic ticket fronted by Vice President Kamala Harris and Minnesota Governor Tim Walz.

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[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 126 points 3 months ago (3 children)

He's worried that the media attention is not on him.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 49 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If he wasn't a living rerun, maybe more people would give a shit.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

*sigh* Yes, he's genuinely a threat to democracy, and the entire world... But his whole schtick is also really tired, old, and weird.

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[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

Why was the room full of reporters in the first place? The best move here is to let him rant to an empty room

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[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 91 points 3 months ago

Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?

[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 61 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The press needs to stop going to these things and stop reporting every little thing Trump does... Just treat him like they do Bernie, pretend he doesn't exist

[–] Johnmannesca@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago

I wish you were wrong about the Bernie part

[–] bluetoque@lemmy.ca 54 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Quite a wild read. And the response from Harris is perfect:

In a press release, the Harris campaign called Trump “the most insecure man in America.”

[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Trump stumbled into the chat: “The most insecure man in America, biggest there’s ever been. I don’t think we’ve ever seen anyone more insecure, and nobody knows more about it than me. I’ve drawn in record insecurity, just ask and they’ll tell you. Tremendous, truly. But insecure? Doubtful. Such a shame, it’s tragic, really it is. But I tell you, and I was talking to the Uh - you know who - and they said, why are you so insecure? And I responded, I’ve drawn in more crowds than, and look, Kim Jong Un even respects me, I’ve had great relations with the Russians. They’re frowning now at us, they don’t respect us nor do they want to do business with us. Insecure? This country is tumbling, and when I win back the election because it was, and look it was stolen, but when I get the president back, I swear, we’re gonna make it bigger than it’s ever been before. Insecure? Look we’ll make it more secure. It will be big secure. Best we’ve ever seen; and we’re doing great things, really great things for the jobs and the economy. EVs are heavy - no one wants them, they want gas, diesel cars, big trucks, and EVs. But I tell you no one wants EVs. But they’re so heavy, I don’t know if you all know this since I’ve got a smart—- * gestures vaguely at head * —- you know what. But I ask them to turn around the cameras. No one’s gonna show you that, and it’s just really sad. My crowd size is huge, I’ve drawn in more people than Dr King did. Just look at the fountains, nothing changed, the people were there and you see. The crowds were big, and they try to say I brought 2000. If they said I brought 2000, then they’d say ‘oh his campaign is over he’s finished.’ But I let them have it with Dr King, because I like King and I like black people. But media won’t tell you that, they just uh cut the facts down to whatever fits their fake news, and then, so we see Biden, you know? And I was all set for him, but then they brought in the most unpopular war criminal, Harris, who is barely compliment, and look she has no brains, I got big brains. She couldn’t pass the BART test and pass laws, she can’t even debate. No complimency, it’s true. You have to trust me on this because it’s such a sad time. Shameful really. I’m most unsecured, sorry, most insecure man there’s ever been. We’re gonna make this country great because we’re about to go on world war 2 again. I can make friends with the Russians. Ukraine? They never would have invaded Russia if I was president. Good guy, really. I’ll bet no one tells Kim he’s insecure, especially after uh what happened with the black wife, Kanye. But look. If they just turn around the cameras, they’ll show you I had record turnout, biggest crowd ever that stormed the capitol. And no one died on Jan 6, they always said they did but they were lies from Crazy Pelosi, just look at her she’s crazy. And Jill, sorry I mean Harris, she’s the most unpopular, most unpopular there ever was in the history of our country, ever. She brings in very little excitement, but my campaign is as exciting as it ever was. I bring in tremendous crowds, I’ve been great with black men, even the Jews love me. But white males? The numbers are hyuuuuuuuge. I don’t know if I’ll have black males vote for me, but the rest of them love me. My crowds are records, but they never talk about — what they do talk about it, is that they’ll do anything to try to spin up what I did , and that’s the truth. I’ve agreed to theee debates, and we’ll see because the truth needs to be heard. The Lunatic Left is always, and really they are. Harris can debate me, she barely competent! I’ll be happy to debate her any time any place. I’ve got the world’s experts, and the people love me and they’ll be voting to get, worst country ever. And that’s no joke, it’s a sad time in America. We’re not respected, I think I mentioned before how Putin sees us, and they don’t care. I’ll make this country more secure, best security ever, so all those countries don’t let out the floodgates and release the insane asylums into our country. They want no border, no security. I want so much security, that I will make this country truly a great country of insecurity.”

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[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 54 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I watched a little to see if he was dropping Vance, but it was too low energy to stay interested. Sad!

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[–] Dagamant@lemmy.world 52 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It was weird. He set up a surprise conference to rant and lie for an hour. I think he is starting to think he might lose.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 14 points 3 months ago

I think it's simpler than that: Trump sees Harris/Walz is getting much more attention and bigger rally audiences than him. Which is weird. Maybe he's too old and should just drop out...

[–] emrebfg@lemmy.world 41 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I liked this piece by Lawrence O’Donnell calling out the corporate media for being too stupid and doing 2016 all over again. Why does the media bother with this dumbass?

https://youtu.be/ZD-oTJ49nls?si=fksopvbAy6ev5e-j

[–] Mercuri@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Omg that was such a good watch. Thanks for sharing.

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[–] Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Why are journalists allergic to the word "lie"?

[–] Donut@leminal.space 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Because lying means the liar knows they are lying. Stating a falsehood means you don't have to have the intent of lying.

This comes down to libel. Journalists would like not to get sued because they think someone is lying instead of just claiming things they believe in, misguided as it is.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"Not a single person died Jan 6" this was an easily confirmable lie he told yesterday. Still, crickets.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Are you sure he's not just so completely:

  • senile
  • deluded
  • forgetful
  • or just plain stupid

that he actually knows that was a falsehood when he said it?

To call something a lie, you basically have to be inside the person's head. You have to know not only the action, but the intent. That's, really, really hard to prove in a way that satisfies the (legitimate and necessary) requirements of journalistic ethics.

[–] Donut@leminal.space 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

When they sue you for libel, they will have to prove that you knew you were lying and still went ahead with it, in order to damage or disparage the other party.

This goes the same for Trump: can you prove he knows he's lying?

Edit: in other, better words:

The legal definition of lying is that someone spread false information with knowledge that the information was false.

In general, a journalist cannot establish whether a person did or did not have prior knowledge, so we don't use the term. It keeps us from getting sued.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

He certainly knew at one point someone had died. Is there exceptions for dementia?

Edit - and I'm not trying to be a smart ass, it's disgusting and I'm really sick of "oh media can't say like it is". It's cowardly and enabling.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago

It doesn't play well in lawsuits. They need the cushion that weasel-words provide.

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So just another Thursday in the life of a MAGAt.

[–] worldwidewave@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

Old man lies at camera, weather at 10

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 months ago

That article is very funny, trrmp giving off some strong circle-the-drain vibes in those quotes.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is a pretty funny read.

Complaining about crowd size. I love it.

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[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That thumbnail:

"and this is my dinosaur impression. RwaaaaaRrrrRRRRggggg!"

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Well, he's got the tiny hands and a big mouth like a Tyrannosaurus Rex, plus he's a dinosaur, so it all lines up.

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[–] Ersatz86@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

From the article:

Campaign spokesperson Ammar Moussa said Trump was “throwing tantrums online and today at his country club for the media” because he wasn’t getting the attention he craves.

“The self-obsessed, convicted felon is incensed he’s not in the spotlight as Vice President Harris and Governor Walz barnstorm the nation talking about their vision for an America of opportunity and security — where freedom and democracy are protected and everyone has a fair shot not just to get by, but to get ahead,” he said.

“Trump has no vision, he has no solutions, and he is running a campaign of revenge and retribution to enact his Project 2025 agenda and make people’s lives worse. It’s why voters will reject him again at the ballot box this November.”

Moussa with the beatdown 😬

This after the Harris campaign called Trump “the most insecure man in America.”

That’s gotta sting just a bit.

[–] HowMany@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So... a regular Thursday, huh?

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. Why are folks surprised? I read that he called it and immediately knew what to expect.

The orange one is on the ropes. He's going to try everything until he finds something that works. I'm sure his advisors are trying to calm him, but he's going to be who he is. Expect further antics and more random garbage until he finds something.

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

I mean, you could say that about any press conference he's given in the past 8 years.

[–] Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 months ago

Trump holds seemingly pointless press conference filled with false claims

Isn't that the description for all of his press conferences?

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if his cult is starting to notice the dementia progressing, or if they're getting tired of him getting his ass handed to him by a woman who is also black. He's old and clearly in bad shape, everyday I wake up and check to see if today is the day he didn't.

[–] Copythis@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, they aren't.

All of my coworkers are super trump supporters, they even bought the flag from the assassination attempt. Yesterday, one of them told me to go "fuck my couch" and I said "there's enough couch fuckers around" which confused him.

I awkwardly explained the JD Vance couch thing (I know it was just a troll, it didn't actually happen) and he BLEW UP. He was explaining that he looks up to and respects JD and I shouldn't believe what I'm seeing on the internet.

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 12 points 3 months ago

Okay, but what makes this one noteworthy?

[–] NotAnonymousAtAll@feddit.org 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He also complained that Harris is now leading the Democratic ticket [...] “because of political reasons ... even though she never received a vote.”

How dare these guys do things for political reasons in an election? Is nothing sacred any more?! /s

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[–] troybot@midwest.social 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is Mar-a-lago? He lives inside a Cheesecake Factory?

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 9 points 3 months ago

Don-old is lonely and wants the press to hear his complaints that we have only heard 10,000 before. We might forget you guys! We might forget that the election was..., and we need to build a..., and Man, Woman, TV, Traitor, Rapist.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago
[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 months ago

Look at that tiny little hand

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Guessing his speech writers were fired

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

And the gullible American press broadcasted his lies live and without any fact checking.

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