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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 80 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Ugh. God..............dammit. Now we all have to suffer through months or years of this dumb shit.

[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

We can always do the "nothing beyond my immediate observation can be trusted" method like the flat earthers do

[–] myusernameis@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

"Were you there?" shudders with rage

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

No.

Fuck you for bringing that bullshit up though.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago

I'm starting to live my life like that now, and it's awesome!

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is going to make politics so much more insufferable.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Not really since in this specific context it's only working with live feeds. I was more talking about the technoweenies finding low-hanging fruit in the Deepfake world to make life more miserable or annoying to people. Scammers, YouTubers, teenage family members...ALL will be annoying everyone using this specific tool any day now.

[–] Deckweiss@lemmy.world 64 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] krysel@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago
[–] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 50 points 3 months ago (1 children)

that let's you deepfake

that lets* you deepfake

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Thank you for your service, ociffer.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 43 points 3 months ago (1 children)

ugh I guess we will just learn to operate under total uncertainty. online media literacy classes for kids have become an urgent need.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's been urgent since the beginning of the rise of electronic mass media a hundred years ago. I'm sure we'll get to it some day.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I had a detecting propaganda workshop when i was a kid in a school in the US. Its not mandatory everywhere, but we do teach these things

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

should be mandatory everywhere and repeated every couple years throughout education because it evolves very fast

[–] msage@programming.dev 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And I don't mean this in any mean way, but how much propaganda did you learn to detect? Like understanding that the american dream is a propaganda?

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Me? I thought the class was dumb because it was super obvious. But I'm inherently skeptical, and I do think its important to have for most people who don't think critically.

I can't remember the details, but I suspect it was things like who wrote it? Are the claims cited? Who are they citing? Is it peer reviewed? What is the author trying to convey? What type of language is being used? Who is the target audience? Etc

[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Still better than nothing. Although most of those seem to be training people that "who said it" is how truthfulness of a statement should be judged which is exactly backwards.

[–] Chiro@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

The value of “who said it” is to help you recognize their motivation. Anyone trying to convince you of something has a vested interest in their position. Understanding the speaker is critical in understanding their position.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 2 points 3 months ago

The point is to understand the concept of credibility. Who said it matters. Some people have a demonstrated history if credibility. Some people have a demonstrated history of incredibly.

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I guess I’m going to show up to my next meeting with my boss as my boss.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 14 points 3 months ago

Omg that's a great idea for my next 1 on 1 lol

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 months ago

Just trade faces with a coworker

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Neat, I wonder who I'll be in tomorrow's morning stand up meeting

[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Shouldn't have shared your face online publicly I guess.

[–] drasglaf@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 months ago

Great, I'm sure nothing bad is going to come out of this, like everything else deepfake-related.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Another reason to not post pictures of yourself online unless absolutely necessary. Also upload them in really low quality.

[–] SketchySeaBeast@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Always Photoshop on a sixth finger.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 months ago

No, let him cook.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

And a third eye and ears, second mouth, etc

[–] dotslashme@infosec.pub 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Presenter: claims there is no 20-minute process to make a video Presenter: makes a 20-minute presentation of how to get it set up

On a more serious note, this is fucking terrifying.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Is this not how people have been making deep fakes already? What's different here?

[–] JK_Flip_Flop@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

It's the fact that it's in near real time now, older techniques with older hardware would need much longer.

[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 6 points 3 months ago

This is real time and based from one image.

Deep fakes up to this point are generally not real time, and are generally trained on the source, then with different methods can be applied to the video. Say, making Kermit the Frog doing a dance as the final video, but it's been deep faked to look like Ms. piggy.

There are tons of examples of AI that post process deep fakes. This is one of the few real time ones that you can link to a webcam, have a single photo, and you are the deepfake.

From my understanding, that hasn't been done yet, at least not in the AI spaces I've been part of.

[–] jay@mbin.zerojay.com 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

It's one thing to show it off, it's a whole other to actually show people how to set it up.

[–] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 months ago

It's literally on github, it's way out of the bag.

[–] ililiililiililiilili@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If it's out of the bag, then it's out of the bag

Now that is a powerful cat

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Go sue a library ya prude

[–] Timbo303@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

But Muta, they could do this for a couple years now already thanks to AI.

Besides the joke above, should the government ban deepfake porn ai or the undress ai? Im suprised it hasnt been banned in many places yet as you can take stock photos of many models and put them up there. Should 100% be illegal as its not consent.

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I thought by now we'd have seen a fuckton of celebrity deepfake nudes and rule 34 porn of every variety, plus apps that let incels create it from pics of their high school crushes/enemies, but it seems like that tidal wave hasn't hit yet.

Or perhaps the legal protections arrived just in time to discourage those with the know-how

[–] bullshitter@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago
[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

Well... that shit's crazy.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago

Scheiss darauf

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

I'm getting Equilibrium / V for Vendetta vibes

[–] ampersandcastles@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Nice. This is good stuff.