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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and the state’s top health department official are directly contradicting federal health recommendations and warning residents against getting a new COVID-19 booster, saying there’s not enough evidence it provides benefits that outweigh risks.

DeSantis, who is running for president, and Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo discussed the vaccine with doctors Wednesday on a Zoom call livestreamed on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter. It repeated much of what they said a week ago during a live event in Jacksonville, in which they warned against the vaccine that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommended this week.

Ladapo’s previous warnings against COVID-19 vaccines prompted a public letter from federal health agencies saying his claims were harmful to the public.

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[–] TempleSquare@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

At this point, it's just a temper tantrum.

Democrats/scientists/experts/youth are the "annoying older brother" and anything they want is "stupid."

Lead poisoning (gasoline) really ruined a generation.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We can literally control them via reverse psychology. Like pulling strings on a puppet.

All we gotta say is sleeping in the middle of the street is dangerous and have ONE pink haired lesbian liberal hold a sign saying that and then film ONE guy with a camo hat with a fish hook in the bill to say in the biggest southern drawl that he ain't gonna let no woke tell him he can't take a nap on I-10.

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Seriously, the easiest way to manipulate a narcissist is to tell them what they want to hear.

"Man, that's a great idea! Did you think of that yourself? Of course you did, I wish I was as smart as you!"

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s kind of where that all ends up, isn’t it? They all start off with their own thing/brand/whatever, and as soon as they realize they either won’t beat Trump/are losing votes in their state/district they pivot to being the dumbest and most extreme fascist just to prove that they’re “cool” because ultimately, that’s where this game leads: the lowest common denominator.

Meanwhile, the rest of us sit and suffer.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

…. Ya think he realizes, the ones that’ll listen to him…. Are also the ones that will vote for him?

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The calculation is as simple as it is disgusting: If he can inspire enough turnout to more than make up for the deaths he causes, then he comes out ahead.

Didn't work out so well for Republicans in 2022, though.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Their math ain’t adding up.

Probably shouldn’t have spent so much effort damning public education, huh?

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

He has calculated that the number of votes he would lose from recommending the vaccine is greater than the number hed lose from them dying to covid. Unfortunately for him, hes bad at math.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah he knows did people and this is what they want to hear. Im sure Desantis himself will get vaccinated.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just killing off his voter base.

[–] CaptainAlchemy@lemmy.one 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate to say this, but this is a blessing in full view. If people want the "freedom" to not take a vaccine because "risks, 5G mind control, whatever" then let's let them. Life is full of risks and they need a wakeup call.

[–] Senshi@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would agree if this decision would only affect themselves. But vaccination against infectious diseases works best if the majority is vaccinated. Then you can actually stop it from spreading. Which is important for all those that cannot be vaccinated for legitimate health reasons. Some vaccines are dangerous for specific subsets of the population. And usually it's the same subset that would be most affected by an actual infection of the diseases we vaccinate against. Small children, pregnant people, any immunocompromised people... Vaccinating is an act of solidarity and community.

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's not just important for those that cannot be vaccinated for health reasons. It's important for the x% that the vaccine was not effective for.

If it's 90% effective, then you still have a 10% chance of getting it if exposed (Though probably less severe, you can still spread it). But if it's 90% effective, you have a much lower chance of being exposed but ONLY IF MOST PEOPLE GET THE VACCINE!

Sorry, not yelling at you. Just making the point that even if you get the vaccine, you are better off if everyone else does too.

[–] Senshi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's what I wanted to hint at in my third sentence, but yes, it wasn't my main point. So thanks for picking up on this even more central aspect.

Your explanation is rightfully more verbose. Herd immunity should not be a difficult concept, but it definitely can't be explained often enough.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

The problem is, refusing to take the vaccine is sort of like a drunk moron firing a pistol into the air. It might hurt them, or their family, but more likely they will kill someone they never knew.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

COVID mostly kills off the elderly.

Good thing Florida's population is so young and spry.

[–] books@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Perhaps it's his solution to the housing crisis?

[–] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This guy should not be president under any circumstances.

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone who craves power should not be allowed to aquire it.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean yes but Ron is way beyond that level.

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Narcissism does that to people.

[–] 3rihskerb@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Nor ahould any of the current republicans.

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don’t interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

This kind of mistake will cost a lot of peoples lives. On the other hand, those people are most likely older and voting REP, so he is killing off his own base.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

You know, at this point, if you're listening to DeSantis, go ahead, don't get the booster. We need less people to vote for DeSantis or people like him in the future. Anyone opposed to him isn't going to follow his advice, so this should hopefully sort itself out as time goes on.

[–] LongbottomLeaf@lemmy.nz 16 points 1 year ago

At the height of the pandemic, Ladapo refused to wear a mask during a meeting with a Democratic senator who was undergoing cancer treatment.

Ah, so a bona fide P.O.S.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

What an absolute skid mark.

LIFE SAVING MEDICINE IS WOKE.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting, this sort of intentional dangerous disinformation would be illegal here coming from a trusted public figure, what sort of charges will this De Santis guy be brought up on?

If there's evidence he did it, it should be a pretty open and shut case.

[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Open and shut against a regular person, sure, but if we've learned anything in the last 8 years, it's that government officials who spread misinformation won't see repercussions for a long time, if ever.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 11 points 1 year ago

This guy eats pudding with his fingers... maybe don't follow his advice on immunizations.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Memba when Florida went from front of the pack in new COVID cases and new COVID deaths to having no open cases, no new cases and no dsiky deaths literally overnight?

[–] GARlactic@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Well this is an excellent reason to get it then.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

...whatever, let the death cult thin their numbers some more.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Hence the name, ‘DeathSantis’

[–] books@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude went to Yale law school, not Yale School of medicine.

I'll take his advice on things of a legal nature, but not medicine.

Lmao take legal advice from Ronny LetsPokeTheMouse Desanny?

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Spreading false information or creating a more dangerous health environment is unforgivable.

[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Gee Ron DeSuckass, if you let all your kill-billy followers die to COVID now, who will vote for you in the next election year?

[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago

In other news, the sky is blue...