Trump is 100% going to blame this loser when he fucks the election up, and the following insurrection attempt.
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If Trump loses in November he'll be in jail by January. The sentencing has already been scheduled. If the election is going to be stolen it'll have to be stolen when the votes are cast or counted, not when the election is certified.
he’ll be in jail by January.
Sigh - no he won't, so can we stop pretending like he will ever face punishment for anything?
I would believe a "house arrest" at Maralago. A house arrest where he gets to pick his security and visitors like ~~Columbia~~ Colombia did with Escobar.
I would believe a “house arrest” at Maralago.
I would too, unless Congress revokes his Secret Service detail. Secret Service protection is what makes imprisoning him difficult, it's either house arrest or they rededicate an entire prison wing to just him.
I wouldn't let him pick his security and restrict his visitors though. And absolutely no internet or social media. It's supposed to be a punishment, after all.
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I think he'd just ditch to someplace with no extradition so he can keep gassing up domestic terrorists from abroad.
I expect he's going to say he didn't mean that he fabricated the story, but instead meant that he "created the story" in the sense of bringing it to the media's attention
He did say exactly that in the interview when called out. It's in the twitter thread linked.
Towards the end.
The crazy thing is: If he hadn't admitted this, there wouldn't have been calls for his resignation. The Republican party is fine with spreading harmful misinformation, but admitting to it is a no-go.
The Republican party needs to have plausible deniability. In the conservative playbook, it's okay to repeat things that they know for a fact are untrue, or to tell a lie of omission to further their agenda, because they can always walk it back at the point in time which they are receiving blowback by saying they didn't know it wasn't true or that they didn't have all the facts at hand. Assuming that the lie doesn't manifest itself into truth or that there are enough people who care enough about the real truth to bother fact checking it at all to the point where it would necessarily generate any kind of controversy.
This was Vance saying the quiet part out loud, probably by accident, and his pivot was not convincing at all.
He broke kayfabe.
Cool. So fucking arrest him. He's a public figure that knowingly and willingly endangered an entire population. Throw the book at his big fat eyelined face.
Why did everyone believe this obvious fake news?
People will believe anything about people they already hate.
Remember the Central Park 5. People were bloodthirsty
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He should definitely resign from the Senate. I'm not sure if he's legally allowed to back out of the VP nomination.
He can't be forced to serve but it may be too late to get his name off of ballots. I'm pretty sure the rules for that vary by state, though. We've already then through this once this year with RFK.
“If I have to create stories so that the American media actually has to pay attention to the suffering of American people, then that’s what I’m going to do,” said Vance, a U.S. Senator representing Ohio.
Ironically, Vance’s attempt to point out imagined “suffering” has led to actual suffering by his own constituents.
Wow. What a horrible piece of shit. I knew he was ‘bad news’. But like. God damn. You’re a fucking moron. A perfect Trump pick for VP.
If my eyes rolled back any further I’d go blind.
It's so disheartening that the polls are basically tied. However much they can be trusted
Honestly I really really doubt that.
Make all the “calls” you want. For someone to voluntarily resign under these circumstances, they need to feel guilt/shame. I’m not sure Vance is capable of either. He will not resign.
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I still think someone explained lesbians to him and he got wildly confused.
I could almost buy that given my feelings about the mental capacity of the poster child for failing upwards, but why would he think specifically Haitian immigrants are lesbians? You know, as opposed to "liberals" or "college girls" (to quote the terrible song from that episode of Bill Nye - did you learn gay in college?) or something...
I’m seriously considering getting an “Ohio eats pussy” patch as an Ohio lesbian
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Its about time there is some accountability for spreading such falsehoods. Does Libel not apply to this, or any law? Come on, he endangered an entire group of his own constituents. They are legally here.
Unfortunately and with deep regrets, I think it'd be tough. From https://lipskylowe.com/when-are-false-accusations-of-racism-defamation/ there are four points:
False Statement about the target was stated as fact (not opinion)
Publication or communication of that statement to a third person
Fault on the part of the person making the statement amounting at least to negligence
Harm to the subject of the statement (damages)
Considering how hard he's publicly pushed the story as a true fact, I think prongs 1 and 2 have been met. Alas, I can see 3 being not reached (he checked with his constituents who claimed the story was true and a judge accepts that as sufficient due diligence).
And 4 would be the hardest - how does one prove damages (like a dollar amount) and that they were specifically caused by his comments?
It'd be hard but I thinks a case can be made by analyzing violence against the Haitian community before and after the comments. We have a date for when it was said, which can serve as our starting point for after. It might not be the easiest but its definitely within reason. On top of it all, I'm tired of this and thats by design. To so obviously be trashing and damaging these communities, but due to the law still have believable excuses. Its bullshit. We know and so do the rubes.
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He didn't create it, but he should resign anyway because he is a sack of shit.
He should resign. He is a spineless piece of trash and will do and say anything for power.
Thats probably why Trump picked him.
Trump picked him because he said he wouldn't have certified the election in 2020.
I'll never quit! First attempt.... I'll never leave his side! Second attempt.... Oh shit this is real! Fuck that! Yeah Haitians are nice people I shouldn't have lied! I'm sorry. I'm subjugating, quitting, resigning, whatever you want!
Oh that's it, just the two? Yeah I'm never leaving his side! Even if Haitians eat all my cats.
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