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[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Anyone else confused about how these bombs are actually detonating? Articles say they are detonating via a text message sent 3x in error, theoretically causing either a spark or a "closed circuit" like a different article explained. The article (from al jazeera) says they have to look at the message but there's video of one igniting in a bag.

I'm curious because I think these pagers may actually constitute a public safety risk, similar to how heavily landmined areas risk exploding even decades later on someone unrelated to the initial conflict.

[–] sumguyonline@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Israel has a reckoning coming. The mercy they have shown is the mercy they will receive. I wish they would stop.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder if we will ever find out who did it

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 19 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

Iran’s ambassador to Lebanon, Mojtaba Amani, was among those injured by the pager explosions on Tuesday, Iran’s Mehr news agency reported.

Attacking ambassadors is a great way to become an international piriah.

[–] Ilgaz@lemm.ee -2 points 3 hours ago

What was ambassador doing with Hezbollah exclusive pager?

[–] TypicalHog@lemm.ee 5 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Why did he have the pager tho?

[–] erenkoylu@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

Hezbollah is a legitimate political party in Lebanon, with millions of voters.

[–] shikitohno@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago

It just says he was injured, which could happen if you were in close proximity to someone wearing one of the pagers. News here showed one of the explosions occurring in a grocery store, with plenty of people nearby, for example.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Ambassador, communication device ...

[–] Avg@lemm.ee -3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Communication with whom? These pagers were ordered by Hezbollah.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 hours ago

Obviously for getting in touch with them. That's what ambassadors do. Anyway, doesn't matter, Israel will never have a use for ambassadors.

[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

an eight-year-old girl was among those killed

[–] anzo@programming.dev 2 points 2 hours ago

And what was she doing with it? /s

[–] sozesoze@lemmy.world 53 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Bibi really wants a war with Hezbollah, doesn't he? I mean you can't call it defending Israels safety anymore when you provoke any and all responses every other month with a missile here, a bomb there and now thousands of bombs everywhere. This is just another measure to keep Netanyahu in a conflict so that he doesn't have to bear the consequences of multiple corruption cases against him and the dissolving of his coalition outside unity cases in a war. Why is Europe and the US still covering for him? What is the rest of Israel doing?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

He wants the US at war before the sea change. once elected or close enough to it Harris can change her tune.

[–] CerealKiller01@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

During the last month there were not 1, not 10, not 100 but 807 alerts in Israel for missile attacks. Some of them weren't fired by Hezbollah, and some might have been the same alert in different areas, but that's still about 7 missile PER DAY even if we assume only 1 in 4 alerts was due to an attack by Hezbollah (side note: during the entire war, about 2,000 missile were launched from Lebanon to Israel, that's an average of about 6 per day). In addition to this, there were 452 aircraft intrusion alerts. Most of these attacks are against civilian targets.

Right now, there are about 79 thousand people (around 0.8% of total population) who are still evicted for nearly a year from northern Israel.

And just in case it needs to be said - the first attack was made by Hezbollah (on Oct. 8th) and without any provocation by Israel.

Not only is this a situation no sovereign country can stand, but it's also a violation of the Lebanon-approved UN Security Council's resolution 1701, that was the basis for ending the 2006 Lebanon War. Hell, just having missiles in the area is by itself a violation of the resolution.

Regarding political reasoning - A war in Lebanon is actually bad for Netanyahu. His interest is a slow-burning war so he can prolong the current situation as much as possible (once the war is over, the pubic will demand an election). In fact, that's probably the main reason you had "a missile here and a bomb there" and not an actual war.

[–] sozesoze@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

A war in Lebanon is actually bad for Netanyahu. His interest is a slow-burning war so he can prolong the current situation as much as possible

The current situation is that he's in a war in Gaza and that is keeping him in office. He can still spin this as "we are fighting against an existential threat". Rocket defence and retaliation strikes aka the slow burning war in Lebanon is not enough for the Israeli society to unite behind Bibi. Only if they seriously attack. And I think Netanyahu wants to provoke such an attack.

Sending thousands of bombs God knows where they land is not a proper defense. It's a huge escalation where Hezbollah will answer. I think the best argument against this strike has been thrown around everywhere: What if Hezbollah made such an attack where 3000 bombs where sent to IDF people. We would talk about a terrorist attack. Why is that different now?

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 hours ago

It's war they wanted and it's what they have. Couldn't make it work in 75 years. We've heard enough and seen enough, nobody gets the benefit of the doubt in this. And I'm scared to even post this mild critic will make me an information warfare target. So tired of this shit.

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[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 31 points 21 hours ago

Israel might be the baddies...

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 17 hours ago

Great, can't wait for the conspiracy theories from this one.

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