it's also important to keep in mind that the cybersecurity field has adbanced tremendously, with cloidfare, EDRs, and in general it is now way harder to do anything anonymously without getting caught, quickly. This also males the field of hacking way more difficult to get in, which combined with reduced attention span of younger generations probably means there's not that many bored teens willing to put the time in, and as an adult you have way much more to loose, so for hose who had the skills it would be a lot greater risk.
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They are waiting for a tangible response, and building.
Not gonna dig through their Twitter feed, but I saw someone a couple months ago ask them this exact question on one of their posts, and they wrote a pretty interesting response. They basically said, we're still here, trying to fuck the system up, but, with all the information we've provided and ported out there to the world, y'all haven't done dick with it. Laws haven't been passed, politicians haven't been ousted, corporations are still abusing the systems. So they were basically saying, what good is them leaking and hacking if the public doesn't take a more activist approach towards change themselves and hold the people they expose accountable.
Well if I knew how to take down sites and child porn site I totally would. Just don't know what to study and probably don't want to be another computer cracker using programs found online.
If you're serious, study cyber security to start.
Then move towards devops.
Worse case scenario, you'll end up in a 6-figure job making complaints into the void as you write bash scripts to speed up a pipeline by 0.1 second.
Best case scenario, you take down a massive criminal ring that sprouts back up like a weed a few days later.
A meme that comes quickly, goes quickly.
It's not an actual organised group, if you didn't know. Anyone can hack something and then say "Done by Anonymous".
I think they were around for over a decade. Like 4 chan anonymous guy Fawkes mask loose collective
Probably comparable to rage comics.
And anyone that performs any successful hack, can also declare themselves as part of Anonymous.
they basically got put out of business by cloudflare
Angry and nihilistic teenagers used to have tech skills and laptops. Now they have iPads and TikTok.
What is a computer?
Stop all the downloadin'!
mr body massage
Help computer
how is this so true lol
I wonder how true that is. Curious to know
We've drastically simplified and made tech accessible to everyone with a smartphone, you no longer need computer skills to get on the internet to shop or participate in social activities. Kids use apps' platforms for the things we had to build and host ourselves 20y ago.
I wish I was alive back then where you guys had to build everything yourself. Go on irc and stuff. Sounds cool
I've recently switched to Linux (I use arch btw) and it feels like I'm living the early days of the ever expanding internet again.
Probably helps that I had to join IRC again for support, instead of Discord.
Yeah same I also use Arch (btw) and even though I've never had the pleasure of experiencing the Internet renaissance, the community feels something like that with all its nerdiness and geekiness.
I actually teach teenagers programming and 3D modelling. The past 5 years has been the first decline in tech literacy I've ever experienced between generations. My personal theory is that only the gamers actually have computers at home now. Everyone else only use their smartphones, and that only gives a negligible increase in tech literacy compared to using a computer.
Yes, computers in their various forms are now so user friendly (and often locked down, because fuck you) that you don't learn much using them. The golden age for learning tech on the fly seems to have been 1990-2010 or so, because computers were both accessible and still had exposed inner logic.
I think the dawning of the Chromebooks was really a huge sign. Sure you could install Linux on some of the early models. But then Google just caught on to this and decided to take even that away. So now you had all of these Chromebooks that can only ever run ChromeOS and whatever Google approved that could run on them. You just can't do jackshit with them because they were also online-only.
And those were pushed onto everyone, particularly schools.
I learned so much at school, hacking crappy computers because I was bored. Boot disks in my backpack, hex editing the typing lesson saves, packing emulators and ROMs in one floppy at time and merging them back together (I even wrote a BASIC program for this because I didn't know that tools existed to compress and chunk large files). And just exploratory hacking for fun, writing scripts and tools and stuff just to see if I could.
Chromebooks are the opposite of that, we bought our daughter a Chromebook and on realizing that it was only a tablet with a keyboard it went back to the store. She has my old Linux desktop now and knows a lot more than her friends
Yeah but this also has to deal with how many pc gamers there are per generation. So what you're saying is gen z and alpha has less pc gsmers.
In my experience it has more to do with how much less frequently issues happen and/or how often you need to go manually move files/folders around. Just not nearly as much need imo.
Similar situation with mobile devices, I remember rooting/roming/jailbreaking being much more common in the past.
Yeah devices are really easy so they just work out of the box. Unless you seek out challenges and issues, you'll probably be computer illiterate.
As a angry, nihilistic teenager: very fucking true. I am literally the only techy guy in my posh bullshit private international school (in Europe so affordable). The only other dude who uses Linux (I'm using that as a bare minimum for "techy") isn't into programming or reverse engineering shit even remotely. I'm all alone (apart from all my non-technical friends). I suppose that's where the nihilism comes from...
Shutting down porn sites? Is that a thing they wanted to achieve? Like free video sites like PH or production companies like Brazzers?
I ment to type child porn sites.-
You can edit the main post you know.
No, turn my question will look stupid!
Anonymous basically became a US intelligence front around the Arab Spring.
A lot of the actual, serious ones that knew what they were doing got caught. Some went to lulsec to be jerks with no agenda and were caught by the Feds. All that was left were script kiddies that downloaded the Low Orbit Ion Cannon and used scripts they find online. Then they left or were overtaken by alt right idiots.
The original Anonymous are in their 30s and 40s by now. Everyone ages out.
90s script kiddie here - a bunch of the shit you can do as a minor with low/no consequences becomes SERIOUS FUCKING BUSINESS as an adult with assets. It's just not worth the risk to keep dicking around with things that might land you in prison or cost you everything you have.
I think their direction has gone astray mixed with losing general interest mixed with aging mixed with getting caught. I think Anonymous now has just turned into a parody of itself thanks for 4chan (yeah I know it was born there) who turned it into a symbol of just shitposting trolling than doing the right things.
They used to have been prominent during the days when SOPA and PIPA had been brought up. Since then, activity has dwindled.