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[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 minutes ago

Cool and normal.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

a yes, it's going to be so fun when enshittification hits the power plant and it start leaking radioactive water in the lake

[–] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

oil spills too

[–] TheHarpyEagle@pawb.social 21 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I mean... yeah this clearly sucks ass, but as a silver lining, maybe it'll rebuild interest in nuclear.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I don't want old ass nuclear power plants. I don't want new power plants in 25 years either. I want a solar panel on every single rooftop, and diversified municipal energy storage (batteries, molten salt, geothermal, etc).

[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Old ass nuclear plants work well, and they are already built. I also want solar panels on every house, and micro turbines in every yard. How about we work with what we already know is clean and expand with new technology.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 11 minutes ago

Fission isn't clean. It's dirty tech that is necessary because humans are fucking awful at planning for the future on a societal level and a best case scenario of turning some deserts into a radioactive waste hellscape is better than killing all complex life on Earth.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 3 points 5 hours ago

It is new... They aren't the original ones that were decommissioned...

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 44 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Why can corporations own nuclear plants? Aren't they people? Can I own a nuclear plant? Or am I just stuck building additional pylons?

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 20 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

AFAIK, There's nothing that says you can't make your own nuclear power plant. Just stuff forbidding you from obtaining nuclear material. Which would make it hard to operate a power plant. But you could still make one that doesn't do anything!

[–] Quexotic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

Reminds me of this dude that tried to make a reactor out of americium from smoke detectors.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hahn

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Strictly speaking, anyone can apply for a license to build a plant but you do need a license. The whole thing is pretty regulated.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The whole thing is pretty regulated.

I feel like that's probably a good thing.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

It's stifles innovation.

/s

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 18 points 21 hours ago

Most nuclear plants are owned by corporations. Before the accident, Three Mile Island was owned and operated by Constellation Energy (now Constellation Nuclear) and EnergySolutions.

https://www.eia.gov/nuclear/reactors/ownership.php

[–] cevn@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You must construct additional pylons.

[–] ResoluteCatnap@lemmy.ml 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Roses are read

Violets are blue

The only additional pylon i need is you 💜

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 92 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I can't wait for this AI bubble to pop.

I'm not saying that some parts of AI have utility - machine learning for medical scans will be a great thing for instance, but the "oooh new! shiny! venture capitalist, line-must-go-up" side of things can well and truly fuck off.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I don't think it will pop.

Everyone is trying to get in on the ground floor for actual AI. True AI will be as revolutionary as electricity and online porn.

[–] greenskye@lemm.ee 12 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

We are a long way off from true AI. You know how VR was a thing with the virtual boy and then the whole thing died for awhile until the oculus and vive revived the idea like 20 years later? And how VR is basically dead again because it's still not quite there? AI is basically like that. We'll get there eventually, but this current trend isn't going to be enough to get us to true AI. It'll go quiet again for awhile until there's some new approach that revives the hype again. Maybe the next phase will do it, but the current AI approach is a dead end from a true AI perspective.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

You aren't wrong; but unlike VR, "dumb" AI has been added to so many devices, used so prolifically, and been invested in so much that it will hold until real AI exists.

AI has already written more on the internet than humans have. There is no reason to believe it is a niche product like VR.

AI has already written more on the internet than humans have. There is no reason to believe it is a niche product like VR.

The internet. Where it gets all it's training material?

This is not the brag you think it is.

[–] Akagigahara@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

The bar of entry is also far lower. Something like chatGPT or Copilot is magnitudes cheaper and far more useful than a VR headset.

Additionally, large models AI don't make one physically sick with motion sickness, only mentally.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

Can you explain what you mean? True AI? Like AGI or something else?

[–] match@pawb.social 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

everyone has a different idea of what true ai will be

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

AI isn't a very good descriptor, it's a catch all for a bunch of different tech. The media does a pretty poor job making that point so people are left to come to their own conclusions about what AI actually is.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

True AI is a sentient program that can be creative and evolve it's own programming. Think digital human analoge, but it knows everything and is easily confused.

Current AI is a party trick performed by a search engine that phrases results in a conversation or a random data generator that can have a theme that informs a comprehensible image.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

True AI is a sentient program that can be creative and evolve it’s own programming. Think digital human analoge, but it knows everything and is easily confused.

We'll achieve fusion as an energy source before we develop what you're describing. If they're trying to get in on the ground floor that's pretty funny.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 5 points 18 hours ago

They want Jane from Speaker for the Dead, they're going to get Skynet.

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Exactly. I'm bullish on AI, I'm not bullish on what the mass market media calls "AI."

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 97 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What a waste of power. Somehow they went from "we're green tech!" to "fuck it, we need ALL the power" real quick. And for nothing.

[–] Kuvwert@lemm.ee 1 points 23 minutes ago

Nuclear is green

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 15 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Don’t forget that Microsoft isn’t some dumb company trying to jump on the AI bandwagon. They’re a cloud provider and Azure provides lots of AI options.

Microsoft is one of the platforms raking in heaps of money from dumb companies trying to jump on the AI bandwagon. They’re the equivalent of the people selling MAGA shirts outside trump rallies.

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago (7 children)

They are making money off AI. Don't think they're not. I don't understand how, but these company's are getting profit.

[–] blibla@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 hours ago

it's venture capital, fueled by the fumes of hopes and dreams and fantasy stories for investors.

[–] vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you look at the enterprise pricing and options for Copilot and Security Copilot, they're building a pretty obvious business model around automating everything from end user basic tasks to tier 1 incident response.

I'm not advocating that it will work, especially as a person in IR but, all the big players are pushing for security automation. All it's going to take is one high profile incident to shift the CSO's and the like to jump in with both hands full of "ai" purchase orders.

The shittiest part is, this is only going to eliminate more entry level secops jobs. Jobs that are generally a great place to start in the industry.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's also going to create more headaches for the people left to fix things

"Shut up and use the AI we are paying a fortune for!"

Proceeds to figure everything out for themselves and works themselves to death

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not necessarily. Companies chase what's popular because it boosts the stock. Executives get bonuses and move to the next hot idea.

Remember when everything was block chain?

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