I went to a gender neutral restroom in California a couple months ago. Each toilet was in its own little private room, and there was a common area of sinks for hand washing. My only thought was that all public restrooms should be like that. Even apart from the equal access issue for LGBTQ+ people, why make one gender stand in line when there are unused facilities right next door.
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Yeah it’s literally just better for everyone
Except for those who desperately want to hurt people they don't like.
Recently went to Paris, and most toilets were like this. It was fantastic.
My only thought was that all public restrooms should be like that.
Agrreed. Sadly, "arrow doesn't turn".
I am passionate about gendered bathrooms. Sorry ladies, you take far too long to pee.
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Just wait until conservatives find out there are already gender neutral bathrooms in their own homes!
Oh the horror!
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i never really got the whole separated toilets thing anyway, it's a toilet, do your thing and skedaddle
we need to redesign toilet stalls to be more private anyways
My biggest reason for wanting separate bathrooms is the propensity for women to squat and spray the seat. I know guys can make a mess too but usually the women's restroom is dirtier than men's. Also women's restroom is more likely to have a line.
But I'm sure building-wise it would be easier to just make one big bathroom so it should probably be that way, long as it's big enough.
In areas with lots of people it's also about efficiency. Single stall toilets don't work at a train station. A better option is to have two toilets .. one with urinal and one without. Use whichever one you want.
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You mean you don't have signs up in your house for your guests to direct them to entirely different bathrooms?
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Disabled toilets are already gender neutral, I guess they'll just stick another sign on the door?
only if they're single-occupant bathrooms. which. for schools... are usually not going to be the case. personally, that should be the solution. just rip out both bathrooms, install single occupant cells. nobody cares what you are. the only sign needed is an 'occupied'/'vacant' on the latch.
(edit: well, you'd still have to have a placard with braille on it so blind people can know what kind of room it is.)
Most of the disabled stalls I’ve encountered (at least in the US) are within the gendered bathrooms. So even if the stall is nominally gender neutral one first has to enter the men’s room or women’s room.
Ah, in the UK the disabled ones are separate and you need a key
So much of the online bathroom discussion makes more sense when one realises that US public restroom designs are insane.
Yeah here in the good ol (hahahaha) USA most establishments have a separate “restroom” for men and women which consist of a row of sinks for washing up and a number of stalls for toilets (and urinals in men’s rooms of course).
Sometimes the urinals are just in a row on the wall with no dividers between. But there’s usually one or two disabled stalls as well, although they’re not locked in any way.
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It really was just a regular bathroom all along.
The gender neutral bathroom was inside here the whole time.
Can we just have a pee bathroom and a poop bathroom?
Important consequence of this in the context of elementary schools: most little boys don't lift up the seat when they pee and their aim is atrocious. At my kids' school, the gender neutral bathrooms are the toilets of last resort.
Under the law, “each school district, county office of education, and charter school” would be required to have at least one gender-neutral bathroom on campus on or before July 1, 2026.
Whut?? Why not just make them all human restrooms? How does it takes two+ years to switch some signage and inform people to use whatever door they wish?
I've been living in a city with "gender-neutral" restrooms for so long that I forget what it used to be like. Well, aside from sports and entertainment complexes.
They may want to allow time for remodeling instead of just new signage. Maybe better stalls for actual privacy. I hate the typical stall I see in the US.
Moron politics. They only get shit done that doesn't really matter for good looks.
Essentially I guess this was needed for redneck morons to know they can use the same bathroom as anyone else because they aren't extra special....
(This post isn't anti lgbtq+)
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So there will stil be regular male/female toilets? In the end I'm kinda whatever about this as long as it's not used as an excuse to remove urinals.
Yes, every gender neutral bathroom I've seen here at elementary schools and college campuses have single occupancy gender neutral bathroom/s next to the men's and women's bathrooms.
I haven't read the text of the law, but unless it explicitly says otherwise, I suspect it will be up to the schools/districts. If they have the money and room to build separate non-gendered bathrooms, then some of them will do so. But I suspect that most will simply convert existing bathrooms and not have gender specific bathrooms at all.
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