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[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So where are the "Republicans are good for the economy" voters now?

[–] Karjalan@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Anyone that actually cares about the economy would see that every time the republicans get in they fuck it, and every time the democrats get in they fix it.

But they don't care about reality, only their feelings

[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

It's necessary for me not to have TSLAs price tank and the Saudis take recover loss out of me, pound-of-flesh style.

Or, probably how he's guilty of a ton of ITAR violations related to Saudis, SpaceX rockets, plus Russia and Starlink

[–] Old_Yharnam@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Yeeaahhh, OR we can just not be dumbfucks and actually work on the economy, Elon, you hack

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 179 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Wait till he hears how necessary it is for life to get harder for billionaires.

[–] Breve@pawb.social 122 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That's why they're trying to take power. Billionaires would rather destroy the world and drive all life to extinction than to give up their private jets and yachts.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

just wait till they outlaw protests and impose curfews

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[–] Frittiert@feddit.org 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The French found a solution some time ago, maybe history really repeats.

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[–] Godort@lemm.ee 146 points 1 week ago (5 children)

necessary for what?

necessary for what, motherfucker?

Protectionism. Musk stands to gain a ton if there's less competition from imported EVs, and that's true for a lot of other products that American companies make. If you can just throw a few million at a presidential campaign and essentially guarantee your competitors will have a 10-60% disadvantage, those few millions can turn into billions in profit.

On paper, the goal seems to be to spur companies to return to the US, but I think the net impact will be higher prices for Americans and reduced trade w/ other countries due to retaliatory tariffs.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Your comment has the same energy as "states' rights to do what?", and I'm here for it.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

For a complete fascist takeover.

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[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago

The fucking gall this billionaire POS has to utter the phrase "live within our means."

[–] Mikrochip@feddit.org 66 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

"Some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I am willing to make"

Why do we only seem to get the bad outlandish things from books and movies? :/

Honestly, aggressive climate change would have a similar short-term impact, even if the net result is good, which is a large part of the reason we don't do aggressive changes like this.

That said, I'm not convinced the net result is good, so we'll instead have short-term suffering followed by longer-term suffering, all for a bit of protectionism for American businesses (which will probably leave them worse off in the long run anyway).

[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Shut up, shut up, shut up please just shtfu already elon. How are people like him and bezos controlling the world? I swear we celebrate and praise mediocre morons in the US.

As a nation we have lost 30 years of progress because we give the loudest most idiotic people to ever live a platform to spew their collective nonsense. Take me back to 2010 where the internet was still fun and not just some massive propaganda machine for the uber wealthy and political nut jobs

[–] fosho@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

He's never going to shut up. But people keep amplifying his pathetic voice by sharing what he says. There's a very large group of society that needs to stop sharing outrage fodder.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 week ago (5 children)

How are people like him and bezos controlling the world?

Capitalism

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

Which is now, very very obviously, not a system design to promote it's own fitness, a la Darwinism...

I wonder what happens to piles of sand placed in the path of high-flowing rivers?

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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

That graph is interesting. When was Reagan president again...?

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 days ago

When was Reagan president again…?

Nailed it.

81-89. I don't think Reagan's presidency or party really explains it, because we see it rise shortly and then fall, both during Bill Clinton's presidency (93-2001). So George H.W. Bush raised taxes during his term, and then Clinton cut them again, but did so while balancing the budget (Clinton ran a surplus).

Reagan certainly slashed taxes, but so did Clinton, and to a similar degree.

[–] Blackout@fedia.io 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Add this to the news that Mike Johnson said they will end Obamacare and I can't believe anyone would vote for Trump. He's going to raise your costs, reduce government services, kill healthcare as we know it, the list goes on and on.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They literally want to end government. Aka, services for anyone who isn't wealthy.

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[–] bamfic@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (7 children)

There is no middle class. There are workers and owners. If you own real estate and stonks you are still a worker unless you can live off of just investments. This is designed to corrupt and neuter you. You have enough skin in the game of the owners to not want to oppose them, but not enough to actually be them. Unless you hope to retire, at which point you make the transition from working class to owning class, but only at the end of your life, if you even make it that far, and often owning very little.

[–] Overshoot2648@lemm.ee 7 points 6 days ago

This is why Worker and Consumer Cooperatives are so vital.

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[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 41 points 1 week ago

Necessary for Elon and trump to evade prison sentences.

These shitbags are trading the health of the majority to evade repercussions for their crimes (of which there are many).

Drone strike please.

[–] Glifted@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (5 children)

🗡️🫨

... there's no guillotine emojis yet

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 32 points 1 week ago

Fascist cunt

[–] GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Electively suffering hardship? Billionaires first, set a good example for the rest of us, and the hardship can trickle down.

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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I wonder if when he says "necessary" he's referring to some longtermism weird BS.

I mean, he's definitely referring to some weird BS. But I wonder whether specifically it's longtermism BS.

I only heard the clip from here.. but it sounded like he said for long term prosperity, not necessary.

I assume what he was saying is that people will suffer while we force the market to move into isolation.

What he doesn't want to admit to the populous is that to have long term benefits of cheap labor, you have to have cheap labor.

So either you have that by being richer than other countries and outsourcing the labor, or isolating the country and subjugating a portion of the population so much that they are the cheap labor. That portion... Isn't going to be small if it's going to be able to provide everything for the rich who blast through resources like crazy.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

I read recently "On Freedom" by Timothy Snyder and he mentions that. Billionaires are sucking or wealth and when we suffer, we are told that this is temporary and toward a greater good (which never comes).

Sadly it is successful and a lot of Americans believe that.

It opened my eyes seeing how we are set up to fight each other (blaming minorities) while oligarchs are making our lives more miserable by hoarding country's wealth.

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[–] Thistlewick@lemmynsfw.com 26 points 1 week ago

“Some of you may die, but that is a risk I am willing to make”

When can we feed Elon to a dragon?

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Bro we couldn't even get people to wear masks and get free tests and vaccines without triggering white outrage, how you think actual financial hardship is going to go over with these people?

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 week ago

Trump is better at this than Musk...

It will be a beautiful necessary. Everyone will love the carnage. We will destroy America bigly. Like never before. The radical left democrats will hate it, but it will be glorious. Trust me.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Bitch, we're already going through hardship. How much more hardship do we need to go through just so you can keep your power trip going?

It's only going to be temporary though, see.. we starve everyone for 30 years as we force ourselves into isolation, then those who are left.. wait, who's left, we killed the work force.

They are pro free-market, so long as the market is contained and controlled in every measure by themselves. Okay so maybe not free, maybe more of an enslaved market. They are going to need to shop that name, stick with calling it what it isn't for now, free

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