Fediverse

Never heard of that for, it looks exactly built for this problem, better than torrent. Good call.

And moderation of this kind of content almost always sounds like torture when you hear about what facebook and the like are outsourcing.

Theoretically, this is a good problem for computer vision/machine learning. But there are a LOT of false positives (I think it was Aftermath who did an article on a study of when a nipple becomes female?). And.. what ethical responsibility do you have to report on the fiftieth time that SheIsReallyAnEightThousandYearOldDragon_6969 uploaded CSAM? And how quick do you think people are going to lose faith in you and start wondering if you'll also report on the rampant piracy?

And... there are also false negatives. At which point you find out you have been hosting something truly heinous for the past few months... possibly when local law enforcement tells you.

Like a lot of things: it sounds great. But nobody in their right mind is going to host this for free. And once you start accepting money you start opening yourself up to a LOT of regulations.

Illegal I can begrudgingly agree with. Even though I am a proponent for piracy, I will conceed that for growth's sake, the tools need a clear well defined path to moderation.

That being said, who's to say what IS immoral and evil?

In the republicans minds, porn is evil and should be banned. Trans rights are evil and should be banned. Abortion is evil and should be banned.

I disagree with all those claims. I do not think any of them are immoral, or evil.

I think pineapple on pizza is wrong, and evil. Some agree, others don't. If I had my way, promoting of pineapple on pizza would be banned.

Now, who's to say what is, and what isn't evil? I think the only clear line to a moderation approach is to have a clear, unquestionable set of rules. These rules are to be based on public laws.

Everything else, I feel you should have the freedom to do as you wish. But also, I believe other people that you don't agree with should be free to do as they wish.

You may never know how someone feels, or understand their perspective, but as long as they aren't breaking laws, I feel they should have the ability to feel that way consequence free.

I may not like that you put pineapples on your pizza, but I feel that you should have the right to enjoy it. Even if it goes against MY views as to what constitutes a REAL pizza! Much to my surprise, pineapple on pizza ISN'T illegal. So you should have the right to enjoy it......

And yes. I did take the most pandtentic example I could think of, in order to display the absurdity of the concept of how easy it is to accept others rights in this world that don't affect you.

Now just apply that same concept to every other example in the world. Then take into consideration that by using vague undefined terms to define your rules, you create grey area that's easy to exploit. Who's to say what IS evil? Adults told their teenagers in the 1950s that Elvis was evil. Parents in the 1920s told their teenagers that jazz was evil.

We need to define the terms that define our rules.

Nothing solves the problem of CSAM quite like... making everyone partially culpable in the storage and distribution of CSAM.

You can't prove I was hosting child porn. Statistically, we all only had a 70% probability of having it on our computers

Look I know there called "farms" but like I told the last forest gnome, the dank woods is no place to host data.

I was brushing my teeth when reading this comment and inadvertently ended up swallowing all my toothpaste.

Usually those artist did get some recognition during their life, but never got into the main stream. That changed due to the main stream changing and the people who did like the art showing it again. That is actually rather easy to do with something like the Fediverse. It just requires a download option. Especially when everybody is aware, that the content will be deleted, that would be a decent option.

Also a lot of content on social media in general is very short term. Stuff like politcal discussions are fairly useless after a few months in most cases. So that can be deleted without much care and again, if somebody wants to preserve it, they easily can just download it.

Not denying that. But maybe we should accept that photos and memes and whatnot aren’t that valuable and limit their size or the volume allowed per user. Just a thought.

Pict-rs that is used by Lemmy to store images already supports S3 type storage, so in theory it should work with Jortage, but I don't think anybody has tested that yet. The people behind Feddit.org might have experimented with it as they expressed interest a while back.