Will be overruled by national ban next year.
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just like that? the governors don't have a say in that?
Nope. Federal law is solely up to Congress to make it and the President to sign it (and the Supreme Court to review if someone sues). Governors only affect state law, and federal law supercedes state law.
whelp and Congress, President and SCOTUS being in the hands of Republicans... this gonna get very uncomfortable
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States' rights are only valid as long as they support the Republican agenda...
The civil war was about states' rights
States' rights to force other states to return escaped slaves. Slaves were taking the underground railroad to the north where slavery wasn't enforced. The South responded by demanding the North return the escaped slaves.
The civil war was about bullying left wing states into violating their own laws to conform to what conservative states demanded of them.
Others have answered, but the reason why "states' rights" don't matter at the Federal level is the Supremacy Clause. States can be more restrictive than the Federal government, but cannot be more lax/loose. An interesting aside is the states that have legalized marijuana usage, where the Federal government has (as of yet) not cracked down on that. It is within constitutional power to do so, but just hasn't.
woah, thanks for the lesson.
Perhaps a federation would be more suited for America instead of one government that decides for all even though every state has its own set of problems?
That's how it was designed. The federal government was supposed to be a weak organization only to organize between states and other countries. In practice, the federal government gradually increased its own power, culminating in the Supreme Court affirming it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn
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This was a massive debate for the first decades of the country.
Can't you game that law by just phrasing permissive laws as strict?
"It is illegal for any officer of the law to make arrest or conviction based on marijuana consumption or possession".
Boom. You're being more restrictive, not being more loose.
Lawyers hate this one weird trick! That wouldn't work because you're not actually being more "strict", you're still in opposition to the federal law. Being more "strict" means you're still in compliance with federal law, you just do extra stuff on top. Semantics can't change that.
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But states rights!!!!!!!!! /s
While voting for this, I was shocked that the ban on gay marriage passed on 2006. Reminded me that even though we've had some shithead leaders over the years, at least we're making some progress.
California passed Proposition 8 (one man one woman)in 2008! Thankfully we saw sense, and this time we passed Prop 3 (the right to marry is a fundamental right/ equal protection).
We may be a little screwy about the number line, but hopefully we're still a bastion of humanity.
Well, give it a few months, trump will remove it all.
That was just 3 years after homosexuality was legalized. They were still reacting from Lawrence v TX and prepping for the push for marriage Equality.
Well that's nice.
Until a federal ban.
Same thought when I read about Missouri voting for access to abortion, and for Republicans.
I'm just so dumbfounded by how many progressive constitutional amendments got passed but voted Republican.
I just can't comprehend someone saying, "You know, this asshole took away my abortion rights but since I'm voting to restore them, I guess he should get another shot."
These people think that abortion amendments are going to hold when their dear leader is in the White House.
Americans are morons. That's it.
Apparently Trump's numbers are same compared to 2020 but something like 14 million Biden voters chose to stay home than vote for Harris.
Absolute fuckwits.
Edit: Trump lost 3 million voters compared to 2020.
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Yup. Back we go.
That's why we're out of here ASAP.
Edit: Are queerphobes downvoting me or something? Sorry, I'm not going to stick around and watch my daughter get marched into a conversion therapy camp.
You know what? I can’t blame you. I just had my world view that most people are kind beings ripped from me. I plan on sinking with the ship and doing anything i can like a good sailor.
If I didn't have someone who depends on me 100%, I might stay. But she is my number one priority.
I always tell people who are reluctant to cut off narcissistic parents: you owe your parents nothing. You didn't ask to exist. They owe you everything.
Good luck, and god speed.
Thank you.
May you, your daughter and your peeps all thrive at this unexpected change. I hope you keep posting.
I don't blame anyone for leaving. The country is lost. It will make me very sad to see the number of good people go down, but also happy that they escaped the hellscape that is coming.
I just wish I could take everyone with me. Especially my daughter's girlfriend and her close friend who is trans.
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people are kind beings ripped from me
Covid was a big sobering moment for me as it materialized everything I read in history. I'm done with giving anyone the benefit of the doubt. People are fucking stupid and I can't be trusted.
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In regards to your edit, I guess your name has some gravitas now and people will just downvote whatever you say in regards to those topics.
The question is: where? The US isn't perfect, but not many countries are. Is there still a country out there that's free and open to all?
Where for me is the UK, where I am also a citizen. No, it is nowhere near perfect. They also don't have a government that's going to force my daughter into a conversion camp. If that happens one day? Well, we'll have to cross that bridge when we come to it. She'll be much safer there for now than she is here.
fuck, dude
Article didn't say - how much did it pass by?
Looked it up myself - they're still counting votes but as of now 63.8% of voters supported it.
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