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EDIT: I should clarify, by Jill Stein, I mean what her party's official platform and policies are on paper, aka, the reason people likely fall for her honeypot (I dont think they necessarily know or believe she's a Russian asset and vote for her on such a basis)

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[โ€“] daggermoon@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago

Do not compare Bernie Sanders to Jill Stein. Jill Stein is an anti-vaxxer and a Russian spy.

[โ€“] NABDad@lemmy.world 26 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Every four years Jill Stein emerges from her burrow. If she sees her shadow, it will be four more years of fascism.

[โ€“] UniversalMonk@lemm.ee -3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

And Trump would have won this time around, even if Jill Stein wouldn't have ran. That's how big his margin was. Dude, he won electoral AND popular vote.

You all need to take a look at yourselves and realize why you lost so bad. It sure as fuck wasn't because of Jill Stein. lol

[โ€“] Asafum@feddit.nl 5 points 2 hours ago

It's not exactly "us." We don't determine whether Kamala runs with an asinine message like "we're going to hire Republicans" or "I wouldn't do anything different than Biden."

That's her stupidity and I think why so many people sat out the election. As the articles are pointing out, the people that sat out the election were in "safe" states, so they were completely uninspired to vote but knew not voting wouldn't have affected the outcome (except locally which is still stupid.)

[โ€“] davel@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 hours ago

You may as well ask, what would happen if the Democratic party were a different party?

The DNC pulled out all the stops to keep Sanders from the general election, twice. They can absolutely win elections, when they want to block any movement toward the left.

I recommend listening to this: Why the Democratic Party CANNOT and WILL NOT be Reformed

[โ€“] j4k3@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Don't know much about Stein, but most of what I've heard from Sanders sounds like the kind of sanity that the asylum riots to resist. The USA has no Left.

[โ€“] vzq@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Jill Stein the useful idiot?

[โ€“] finderscult@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They'd win. Assuming they invest in messaging and campaigning, instead of whatever the fuck Harris spent a billion on.

[โ€“] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 hours ago

She spent a million of it on this chat with Oprah.

[โ€“] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 hours ago

i want to believe that the democrats could have won; but they're so good at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory that they still would have let trump win again.