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Due to an oversight, Trump's attorneys failed to ask for a jury trial within the time allotted to them

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[–] Mammal@lemmy.world 112 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The guy with a reputation for not paying his attorneys is having trouble attracting good legal council?

Shocked. I'm shocked.

[–] worldwidewave@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

His lawyers probably didn’t expect to juggle a dozen trials at the same time. That, and, no one even halfway competent would ever work for Trump. Most of his previous attorneys are codefendants in his criminal trials at this point.

[–] JustAManOnAToilet@lemmy.world 65 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I can hear the ineffective assistance of counsel appeal being typed up now.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 45 points 11 months ago

"OK so what's our strategy here?"

"Well, I'm going to be so incompetent that when you're inevitably found guilty you can appeal on the basis that I'm incompetent"

"Genius. I love it."

[–] DigitalNirvana@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago

Doubtless they will turn it a day late, and a dollar short. SMH

[–] krayj@sh.itjust.works 40 points 11 months ago (3 children)

So the repeated (ad nauseum) Trump claim "I only hire the best people" isn't accurate?

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's absolutely accurate, we just never asked by what metric "best" was being measured.

"Best" in this case was apparently "someone dumb enough to think Trump won't screw them out of money." :P

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

“They didn’t ask for payment up front.”

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'll let the team over at Legal Eagle answer that one

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

So, I must have followed a link to one of their videos at some point, because the YouTube algorithm spammed me their shit for months until I blocked it.

What kind of content is it? The thumbnails and titles looked rage baity

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 9 points 11 months ago

It's actually pretty decent legal oriented YouTube entertainment. He's a practicing lawyer that talks about current events and discusses possibly relevant laws or sometimes legal procedures. Sort of a more serious version of attorney tom.

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

It's pretty good. He definitely has a bias and I don't agree with him 100% of the time.

For example, he advocates that forced arbitration agreements isn't that bad. I don't agree with that at all.

But it's good content and high quality.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

He's actually pretty good. I really enjoy some of his reviews of legal movies.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I only hire the best people*

*that will actually agree to work for me, which is a small and shrinking list.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

and probably not get paid

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Oh no. 🍿

[–] captsneeze@lemmy.one 20 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I’m just some idiot on the internet who doesn’t know what I’m talking about, but…

Is it possible this isn’t a mistake? If you’re going to try to win a trial through corruption and wrongdoings, it seems easier to illicitly win over (and have it stay quiet) one person than half of a jury, no?

[–] WHYAREWEALLCAPS@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This judge already appears to have an axe to grind with Trump, so, uh, it probably would have been easier with a jury.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

That's their play, they don't want a jury because they're trying to pay the groundwork for a mistrial via judicial bias but that is a high jump and they're stumbling on molehills.

[–] DigitalFrank@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Not a mistake. They plan to win on appeal.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Sounds like he's setting up an appeal to a sympathetic judge on the basis of "the evil liberals were mean to me!"

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You only need one juror though, no?

[–] captsneeze@lemmy.one 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m honestly not sure. Does a jury vote need to be unanimous for a guilty verdict?

[–] Googlyman64@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

The jury has to be unanimous no matter the decision. If they can't agree, they either deliberate as long as it takes, or if the jury is hung, then they'll reduce the charges.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I posted this story in politics from another source a few days ago and it was removed because apparently the source wasn’t good enough and people couldn’t find it anywhere else. It was the only source reporting it at the time, but ok then.

edit: guess it was farther back than I remember, here’s that article from ~3 weeks ago

https://washingtonpress.com/2023/09/12/attorney-error-trump-eschews-jury-in-manhattan-case/

edit2: yep, 19 days ago

[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Quit being so fast and accurate with your news! This isn’t Reuters!

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 10 points 11 months ago

Sorry sorry I’ll build in a delay from now on.

Lol this is fantastic. The trial is going to be an absolute blast :D

[–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Did he fire his attorneys? No? Then it was on purpose. He's building up to some political bullshit.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 6 points 11 months ago

It also really limits his appeals options.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Good. Let's hope that this is just the first of stupidities he stumbles over. Didn't he already piss off the judge that presides over this case?

[–] FReddit@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I'd love to see the judge rule from the bench on this.