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Asian American groups are preparing for potential deportations of undocumented Chinese nationals, particularly military-age men, under Trump’s proposed immigration policies.

Sources indicate Chinese nationals may be prioritized due to alleged national security concerns, reflecting broader anti-China sentiment.

Community organizations are creating multilingual resources, coordinating legal support, and educating families on their rights.

Trump’s rhetoric ties Chinese immigrants to fears of espionage, intensifying anxieties.

Advocates highlight the historical targeting of minority groups during national security crises and warn of significant impacts on vulnerable communities, urging solidarity and swift action.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

The British thought immigrants would be deported after the Brexit too. But then they quickly realized they form the backbone of some of the critical sectors like hospitality, logistics, construction etc. So they quietly pretended like nothing ever happened.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

i always knew chin yang was a terrorist

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 44 points 7 hours ago

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

—Martin Niemöller

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 45 points 9 hours ago

My dad remarried a China-nese lady after my mom passed away. He voted for Trump in 2020 and 2024. I love this lady like my own mom, but the leopard is coming in to eat soon.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 22 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That's a lot of Asian faces (39%) for these leopard to eat.

Wouldn't be surprised if they try to strip Asian American citizens, naturalized or natural born, of their citizenship either.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

IANAL, but for natural born the only realistic scenario with the current legal setup is accusing them of treason and finding them guilty.

https://www.usa.gov/renounce-lose-citizenship

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't it against international law to make someone stateless?

(Granted, it's not like they'd care about legality)

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

That's the fun thing about international law- who's gonna enforce it?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Key word being current. Remember that Republicans will control all three branches of government, including both houses of Congress.

Of course that assumes they follow the law at all.

[–] TotalFat@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Exactly.. Especially since one branch decided one of the other branches doesn't have to follow the law.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 78 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Also to anyone saying “well how can they deport a citizen when the other country won’t take them since they’re not one of their citizens?”

That’s the point…. They’ll stay locked up in internment camps because the US “is looking into their citizenship status” and they’ll stay there for an indefinite time.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 45 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

"Then what happens when those get too full?"

Guess what happened in Germany.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 20 points 7 hours ago

My money is on them building more camps instead. The prison industrial complex would be very unhappy about slaves going to waste.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

In Germany Nazis literally worked them to death (Vernichtung dutch Rabbit)

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 hours ago

I'm assuming it's autocorrect, but there were no Dutch rabbits involved. It's Vernichtung durch Arbeit, extermination through work.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Because what's cheaper than even undocumented immigrants labor? Prison labor.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I don't think that's true. Imprisoned people have to have their basic needs met by the state (food, shelter, clothing, etc.). People outside prison have to provide that themselves.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I don't think gruel and mass-produced orange jumpsuits are going to set them back too far

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Except the people renting the labor don't have to pay for any of that.

[–] ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

They should know, private prison stocks went up on his winning the election. But after the misinformation and willing ignorance in display, I'm not surprised they don't.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 44 points 12 hours ago (9 children)

Noteworthy, Trump's support from Asian American voters grew 5 points to 39% in 2024.

The AsiansMAGA PAC raised $77,063.89 for Trump, outspending some other Asian American PACs but admittedly not as much as the AAPI.

Not saying they deserve it or anything, but there certainly will be some leopards eating the faces among them.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It’s worth mentioning that there should be some distinction between first and second+ generation immigrants. Often even amongst each other there is division so those who support Trump may not have to worry about being deported.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

You are making the mistaken assumption that the brute squad will bother to differentiate between them. How many second+ generation immigrants carry around proof of citizenship, anyway? They can be detained just like anyone else who doesn't look right.

(And it's super easy to carry that now, the passport card is cheap, fits in your wallet, and is a good first line of defense against being disappeared.)

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 10 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Once again. This is because less people voted democratic. Same number over a smaller total is a larger percentage.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago

I.e. people that could have prevented this but decided they'd rather have their faces eaten.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Seeing 10M less Democrats vote when the Republican numbers were about the same was the biggest gut check I had. People would rather just not vote, than vote for a half black woman. That was really sad. And don’t anyone dare tell me it was about Gaza, that’s just a load of BS.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 15 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Kamala Harris did not lose because she's not a white man and perpetuating that myth is not helping.

She lost because she didn't speak to the working class.

She didn't lay out any plans nor promise any relief to the millions of people struggling.

She said she wouldn't do anything different than Biden with Palestine.

She parading around a Republican and tried to draw in the non-existent middle voter.

She promised more of the same when "the same" already wasn't good enough.

Was she the better choice? Absolutely. Did she lose because she's not a white man? FUCK NO and parroting that bullshit excuse is just distracting from the issues that actually need fixing.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 17 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

She also lost because she's not a man. And she also lost because she's not white. You're deluding yourself if you don't think race and gender had an influence in the election.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

If being a woman's all it takes not to vote for her then how come she lost Michigan which has a woman governor?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Well she did actually, it was all on her website which has sadly been updated or I would show you.

You can still see her Politifact campaign promises page tho LINK

Economy

Ban corporate price gouging on food and groceries

Taxes

Will not raise taxes for those earning less than $400,000 a year

This promise extends another Biden pledge.

Roll back Trump’s tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans

Enact a minimum tax for billionaires

Increase the tax rate on long-term capital gains to 28% for those earning at least $1 million a year

and this is in addition to the fact that the Biden Administration already blocked the Krogers Albertson Merger and had the FTC and DOJ investigate prices and firms across the USA. LINK

She also promised to bring back Child Tax Credits and a new $6,000 child tax credit and also to forgive even more student debts.

If there was any issue with Message it was that the people who bought Washington Post and Twitter weren't sharing their message.

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

potential risk to national security

Pot, meet kettle.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Pot, meet industrial boiler.

FTFY

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 11 hours ago (10 children)

How likely do y'all think that I as a US Citizen with Chinese ancestry is gonna get deported.

Becausing looking back in history, e.g the Chinese Exclusion Act, it doesn't give me too much hope.

Welp out of one dicatorship into another 🤷‍♂️

Oh the situation is even more messed up considering the fact that in Chinese law, citizenship is automatically revoked when you obtain foreign citizenship. Guess I could end up stateless, in a CCP dictatorship.

Fuck this world.

[–] FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee 5 points 7 hours ago

My bff and her brother were born here, but I'm extremely worried for them. A couple years ago DARPA approached her brother for the work he did on drone technology in college. I know her parents cut ties with their families in China when they moved here several decades ago, but that doesn't seem like enough to keep them from being harassed at minimum.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Depends on how Americanized you are and how racist your area is.

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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 22 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

During the 1930s when there was a mass Mexican deportation, there were a lot of US citizens rounded up and deported. Don't trust these guys will not make the same mistake. Of course, a decade later, Mexicans streamed across the border to mind farms and ranches while US manpower was in WWII. They kinda helped win the war by keeping the nation and it's troops fed.

They did it a second time, too.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 29 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

"undocumented"

Well, I mean, if they're undocumented they're already just one bad luck away from getting deported, the question is, how does he plan to catch them if they're not getting caught already?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 33 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] whygohomie@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

What a convenient pretext to round up Beijing's wishlist of exiles.

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