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The fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson has drawn attention due to the phrase “deny, defend, depose” reportedly written on the shooter’s ammunition, echoing criticism of insurer practices like “delay, deny, defend.”

UnitedHealthcare, one of the largest U.S. health insurers, has faced scrutiny over claim denials and delays, including a Senate report highlighting issues with Medicare Advantage prior authorizations.

The killing has sparked public outrage and dark humor on social media, reflecting widespread frustration with health insurers, which many blame for rising healthcare costs and access barriers.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 157 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

It's literally the title of the book about their shitty tactics

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[–] Josey_Wales@lemmy.world 135 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

“Sparked public outrage”

Only reference in article is a link to another story discussing outrage on social media in general. AP is pushing a capitalist agenda.

I personally haven’t seen any outrage. Just that dark humor.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 51 points 3 weeks ago

The outrage was already sparked. That's why he got shot.

[–] dvlsg@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

I've seen plenty of outrage.

It's just all targeted at the insurance companies.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

I think you're misreading this sentence: I think it's clearly implying public outrage surrounding US health insurance, not about the killing itself. "The killing has sparked public outrage and dark humor on social media" pretty clearly implies to me that they mean the public outrage associated with the dark humor.

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Haha. Yes. We all make funny jokes! We're just joking right guys?

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

In Minecraft

[–] b34k@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

The only outrage I’ve seen is directed towards mods on various platforms for locking community discussion about this incident.

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[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 129 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

“Sparked public outrage” Where? The CEO’s of America headquarters? I’ve literally only seen elation & humorous remarks.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think it's been public outrage about health insurers tbh

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

"If there is any person in the town, who feels emotion caused by this man's death," said Scrooge quite agonised, "show that person to me, Spirit, I beseech you."

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 125 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

Somebody lost someone and they correctly identified the person most guilty. That is what these people and their undeserved money fear. They fear when the riots start the people don't trash their neighborhood for once but seek out those to blame and trash them. That is when you will see gun control become a priority.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 95 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

The killing has sparked public outrage

I legitimately haven't seen a single person upset other than someone posting a screenshot of Tim Walz doing the typical tweet of condolences

[–] prof_wafflez@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

The average citizen is cheering every location I’ve looked.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm outraged.... The way that healthcare companies decide who gets to live and who needs to die for profit.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Weirdly, I've seen a few .ml usernames complaining about how killing people is always evil, and that we're evil for glorifying it

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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 73 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

the phrase “deny, defend, depose” reportedly written on the shooter’s ammunition

This is likely in reference to a book that is highly critical of the medical insurance field called “Delay, Deny Defend”. Except here, the shooter actually did depose the CEO for his company’s actions.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 65 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

"But guys, he could have had some other motive! We just dOn'T kNoW!!!!1!one!!!"

So, about that.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 43 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We don't know what words were written on all the ammo he didn't fire, so maybe it was sheer coincidence.

[–] Buffalobuffalo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Just reach into the old grab-bag of engraved bullets I keep for just the occasion.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Motive roulette

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago

Yep, I was previously in the "probably someone wronged by United but can't be 100% sure" camp, but now there's no way it could be interpreted as anything else. Someone sought justice and got it.

[–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

If he was shtupping your wife, what better way to direct suspicion away from you than to play into the angle that would give every American not on the Forbes list a motive?

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[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 62 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I hope they never catch him.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It sure would be a shame if the 99% of New York state saw and heard nothing of interest about this guy.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

What guy? The CEO was carrying the gun and tripped, shooting himself in the back. We all saw the video.

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

I mean if Jan 6 was peaceful... yeah... we all saw it he tripped

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[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago

From what I am seeing on a few platforms, there may not be much help from the public.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 57 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Honestly the best calling card I've seen in a while. I can see this being a motto among the resistance.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 56 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The killing has sparked public outrage

Huh... Must be on some social media for CEOs by CEOs or something because I haven't seen any outrage. Quite the opposite, in fact.

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[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 52 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

If they catch this guy he will never see trial. No way they’d risk him getting up on the stand, and even less likely they’d want to try their luck getting twelve people to convict. He’ll go down in a hail of gunfire or get Epstein’d

[–] kuato@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

No way they’d risk him getting up on the stand

Defendants don’t get up on the stand if they want any chance of a not guilt verdict.

and even less likely they’d want to try their luck getting twelve people to convict.

It’s not so unlikely. It ought to be, but it isn’t.

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[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

All I've seen is celebration and laughter.

There's been no outrage. Maybe from a few bootlickers. But nobody who's opinion you should respect.

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[–] sumguyonline@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The pigs hunting this soldier need to take note. There's a lot of angry, sick, and wronged people in the world, that these rich fucks are doing the evils to. We execute a CEO in broad daylight and within days another insurer planned to limit anesthesia. The board of directors will be getting executed next, the pigs need to get their heads out of their asses and realize who's side their on. They are currently standing where the enemy of the people stands. It's a dangerous place, and we are hungry.

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

They backed down on the anesthesia thing. They got scared.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Give them a month. They will put it back.

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[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson has drawn attention due to the phrase “deny, defend, depose” reportedly written on the shooter’s ammunition, echoing criticism of insurer practices like “delay, deny, defend.”

I'm guessing he didn't consider the LIFO nature of a clip when loading, and "depose" is his answer to "delay, deny, defend". So he put depose, defend, and deny into the CEO in that order

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think you're right. I'm sure it was loaded with delay, deny, defend, depose.

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Kinda ironic he didn't have time to shoot "delay" when you think about it.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Interestingly, NYT doesn't mention the word "depose" in any of their articles on the matter.

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Was he using an Aperture Science designed gun, or did AP just use a stock photo for the article?

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

He was using a suppressor that looks like it wasn't installed correctly and the gun jammed multiple times. Clearing those jams resulted in several unfired rounds being ejected onto the ground.

Just screwing a can onto a threaded barrel on a tilt-barrel automatic can keep the gun from cycling properly. You often need to have a special adapter between the barrel and the supressor for it to operate.

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