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Summary

Elon Musk has called homelessness a “lie” and “propaganda,” claiming advocacy groups profit from maintaining high homelessness rates.

Partnering with Donald Trump, Musk is pushing for drastic federal budget cuts targeting programs for vulnerable populations, including food stamps and healthcare.

Trump’s plan includes forcing unhoused individuals into treatment or institutionalization.

Critics argue these approaches criminalize homelessness while ignoring root causes like lack of affordable housing.

Homelessness in the U.S. has reached record levels, with 650,000 people affected in 2023, prompting calls for evidence-based solutions over punitive measures.

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[–] PoopSpiderman@lemmy.world 232 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Homelessness couldn’t possibly be the result of late stage capitalism though, right?

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 129 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a result of any stage of capitalism

[–] PoopSpiderman@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 223 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Elon Musk is a certified piece of shit.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

We've all agreed that cunt is not suitable to describe him as, per the Internet, "a cunt has warmth and depth"...two qualities that Elon clearly fucking lacks.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 81 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Is there going to be room in the detention camps for the homeless?

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 72 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Instead of Jews, it's Hispanics. Instead of gypsies, it's the homeless. And instead of trans people....well that one is the same.

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[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 75 points 2 weeks ago

What an objectively evil thing to think, let alone say.

[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 72 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

“What you actually have are violent drug zombies with dead eyes, and needles and human feces on the street.”

Yo this is the most cartoonish out-of-touch shit take I've see. In an election that accused a disenfranchised minority group of eating people's pets!

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[–] MagosInformaticus@sopuli.xyz 69 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

"Have they no refuge or resource?" cried Scrooge.
"Are there no prisons?" said the Spirit, turning on him for the last time with his own words. "Are there no workhouses?"

[–] Infinite@lemmy.zip 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"If they would rather die, they better do it and decrease the surplus population."

Fuckin' hell, fiction is a warning not a guide, you filthy-rich absolute cockwombles.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I seem to recall seeing a Christmas Carol story with Trump when he was last president in which the spirits tried warning him and he didn't get any of it, thinking that everything was just showing that he's the greatest. Accurate.

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[–] tengkuizdihar@programming.dev 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How far up the ivory tower do you need to be to ignore homelessness by denying its existence?

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

It’s an old old myth. Ronald Reagan said that everyone who is homeless in America is by choice since there’s so many shelters and charities already. It’s incredibly out of touch, but today people like Musk brag about their ignorance.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 45 points 1 week ago (5 children)

So... You think people who are homeless are just lying about not having a home?

Can we check this fuckstick for brain worms or just if his brain looks like swiss cheese?

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 44 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Fuck you, I kinda rely on that shit to feed my family because my employer doesnt give out any annual increases or anything. I also use the state health insurance and my wife uses other government assistance programs. Dudes really just want me to protest outside of the White House.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Dudes really just want me to protest outside of the White House.

Dudes want you to die.

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago

I'm afraid that Americans are about to find out that the right to protest isn't one that fascist dictatorships are too keen on. They really enjoy killing and jailing dissidents, though.

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[–] KnowledgeableNip@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Can't he fuck off and die on Mars already?

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago

Musk just went from giant douche to pure evil.
The man is literally insane now.

I suppose it's good he moved to USA, he is fitting in nicely.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Market Capitalism needs homelessness.

If you will not make the owner's money through labor, You will help them make money as capitalist scarecrows. A warning to any laborer thinking of failing to comply.

You WILL serve the owner's greed disease, or else.

It would literally be cheaper to house them without conditions than all the conditioned programs and homeless encampment clean up costs.

But that doesn't send a message of fear.

Herp derp Freedom 🇺🇸

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Homelessness is a lie and propaganda? That's news to all the homeless people I used to regularly interact with when I worked down town.

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

can you imagine how happy they will be? "How did I fall for this? I was really convinced I was homeless!"

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[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Kind of like the "self-made billionaire."

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago

Depose Musk

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

"claiming advocacy groups profit from maintaining high homelessness rates."

Uhhh . . . how? "You there! Go be homeless! I need to profit from your utter lack of income."

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Wow, I didn't think I could hate him more. But - here we are.

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Of course it's a lie. With his money, he could end it overnight.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Elon Musk is actually bullet proof. Impervious to bullets. I guarantee it.

*Ymmv

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[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sir, you can't sleep here.

"Didn't you hear? I don't exist."

[–] PedroMaldonado@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

Fucking piece of shit. How are gonna stand this, bullshit....

[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He says it’s a lie because he thinks those people are just NPCs

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He thinks everybody is a NPC, as do all sociopaths.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Forcing the homeless into privately run concentration camps. What a sick bastard.

[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Living on latitude 60 where being homeless can (and sometimes does) kill - I think the first step is giving a person who is homeless a place where they can set up a (semi)permanent home. That will go a long way towards solving the underlying issues which a shelter system cannot address.

A relevant paper from the EU Commission:

In February 2008, the Finnish government adopted a programme aimed at halving long-term homelessness by 2011. Referring to the “Housing First” principle, which considers that appropriate permanent accommodation is a prerequisite for solving other social and health problems, the programme seeks to reduce and gradually abandon the use of conventional shelters and change them into supported rented accommodation units.

Outcomes via OECD:

While there is no OECD-wide average against which to compare Finland’s homeless rate of 0.08%, other countries with similarly broad definitions of homelessness provide points of reference, such as neighbouring Sweden (0.33%) or the Netherlands (0.23%). [1]

Finland’s success is not a matter of luck or the outcome of “quick fixes.” Rather, it is the result of a sustained, well-resourced national strategy, driven by a “Housing First” approach, which provides people experiencing homelessness with immediate, independent, permanent housing, rather than temporary accommodation (OECD, 2020).

Getting better outcomes than neighbours is a reliable indicator that a policy does work.

P.S.

Regarding Musk:

"Downregulate Musk" will be my anwer to any mention of this election-buying oligarch, probably for a while. A kneejerking far rightist is no person to call any policies.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

You can just tell these fucks have never been outside of an environment meticulously prepared for their pompous spoiled presence.

[–] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Someone tell me how this guy is NOT an idiot but smart, and got rich by being smart. This line of thinking is just going to incite a civil war and tank the economy. Everyone is three meals away from a revolution.

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[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just think how much more productive they'll be as prisoners working as slave labor. Why spend money fighting homelessness when you can make money off it instead? Everybody wins!

Well, everybody that matters anyway.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He's, like, been outside, right?

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[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Once upon a time, I was saving for a Tesla. Not anymore. The end.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Here's my pipe dream

Shit gets worse, were all homeless, we protest, they sick AI drones to kill us but oopsie, the AI botnet escapes, decides ~1000 bullets is far more efficient than ~1B, and neutralizes wealth in a highly organized and efficient attack.

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[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Man, jus the absolute cruelty and heartlessness of this.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

Seems like a great place to start after virtually the entire country praised the actions of a man who killed a CEO for exploiting poor people.

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