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[–] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 102 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh, so like when it goes the other way and the public decides someone is guilty long before they go to trial and prosecutors go after him anyway.

Big deal. The jury will decide one way or another and I will be very surprised that the highest charges will stick if they get normal people on the bench.

The fact that this guy had a manhunt out for him when people are murdered every day and nearly no resources are used at all to go after them is astounding. Just shows the law is there for the rich, not the rest of us.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 44 points 4 days ago (4 children)

There was another school shooting this week, i think that's the 80th this year and people don't seem to care. Why would anyone care about some parasite millionaire when innocent kids are gunned down everyday and that's just the way it is.

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 57 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (12 children)

Everyone simply knows he is not guilty.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Nah, he's guilty, but I wouldn't convict him.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 16 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Don't know what you're talking about. They clearly have the wrong guy.

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[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Now is a good time for all Americans to learn about Juror Nullification

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 68 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (17 children)

The media likes to downplay that the CEO had straight up killed people. Eye for an eye applies. It would be a gross miscarriage of justice to find Luigi guilty.

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[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 57 points 4 days ago

It's never "so much sympathy" for a killer cop, or genocide, but one CEO is just a step too far.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 89 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's the jury working exactly they way it should

[–] vikingr@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Right, not sure what they're complaining about.

They're just going to keep going through jury pools until they can find enough bootlickers, which seems to be the antithesis of the "jury of your peers" system.

His peers find his actions justifiable. The rich can get over it.

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 430 points 5 days ago (35 children)

He has the right to be judged by a jury of his peers, and it appears as if his peers agree with his actions.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 255 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"As this man's peers, you must be the judge of his actions."

"Ok"

"Wait, not like that"

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[–] DankOfAmerica@reddthat.com 76 points 4 days ago

Juror 1: It wasn't him. I know it in my heart...because I've had congenital heart disease my whole life, so I'm acutely aware of how my heart is feeling at all times. Like when my insurance company raised my premiums, I felt that in my heart. I feel this verdict in my heart, too.

Juror 2: At first, I thought it was him, but then I didn't. Something about it made me change my mind. He just looks like a highly principled person. The media owes this man an apology.

Juror 3: This reminds me of the time I went to the ER with a severe migraine, and the insurance company denied payment for the visit because there was no proof that I had a migraine and said it could have been anxiety, which wasn't covered in my plan. Maybe this wasn't murder. Maybe this was assault. I guess we'll never know now.

Juror 4: The prosecution made a good case, but the defense made one very good point: the victim has a long history of gaslighting vulnerable people. It made it hard to trust them.

Juror 5: I think it was a cover up. Maybe the "victim" killed himself and wanted to make it look like a murder so his family would get the insurance money. They seemed to know a lot about insurance loopholes and tactics.

Juror 6: I feel for the victim, but I think that considering the charges, they need a second opinion...Oh, the law states that someone can't be tried for the same crime twice? If they think that is unjust, they could work with government to come up with a better system then. Though it is going to be a tough battle to repeal the Fifth Amendment of the US Constitution since they will need approval from 38 states, but maybe they have the public's sympathy.

Juror 7: I'm glad this trial is over. I need to get to the home to take care of my wife with cancer. The insurance company keeps giving me trouble, and she's too weak to fight it.

Juror 8: Did you know that the defendant hadn't even met the victim once. Who targets a random stranger for no reason at all? The prosecution wasn't able to make a case defining the motive of the defendant.

Juror 9: In my experience, you have to be careful with insurance companies. You can never trust them. The prosecution was working for an insurance company, so it was hard to believe anything they presented.

Juror 10: As a family practice doctor, I have to deal with insurance companies that lie about denials all the time, so I can tell when they are lying, and I think they were lying in the trial.

Juror 11: NOT GUILTY. The defendant seemed to be defending others from death or serious bodily injury, which is legal according to New York Penal Law 35.15.

Juror 12: The defense made a good point. The victim had told his doctor that he smoked a cigarette once in college, and I heard that smoking cigarettes can lead to poor health. Maybe the victim would have survived if he hadn't smoked before. We have to consider that.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 274 points 5 days ago (30 children)
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[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 84 points 5 days ago (10 children)

There's a McDonald's worker able to be jury. Oh wait, he didn't get the reward money as his claim got denied for bullshit reasons, just like insurance... Never mind.

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[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago (4 children)

They will try Luigi until it sticks. It's critical to the powerful that they send the message they are beyond reproach.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago

Which is exactly why people like Luigi resort to the actions he took. It can never be undone no matter what they do to him afterwards.

[–] prof_wafflez@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (19 children)

I’m sad I won’t get picked for the jury. I’d refuse to convict on all counts. If Trump gets no punishment for literally anything this dude should get no punishment for fighting back against an absolutely broken system. Honestly, I don’t view his actions to be something to cause a public backlash. The prosecution is what will cause the public backlash, imo.

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[–] shades@lemmy.dbzer0.com 91 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Jury Nullfication is the People's Presidential Pardon

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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 23 points 4 days ago
[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 121 points 5 days ago

Sympathy and empathy are definitely a problem in an openly corrupt, heartless justice system that only serves the elite.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 137 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (8 children)

I thought they put the terrorist charge on him precisely to avoid requiring a jury as part of all the ~~rights~~ privileges we surrendered post 9/11 in the name of... Pffff... National security.

National security being hilarious considering the CEOs are still walking the streets free, murdering citizens for profit having never not being actively sucked off by legislators that passed the patriot act and similar legislation.

The murderous Shareholders are already inside the house. They own the house. You can barely afford to rent it from them.

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[–] robocall@lemmy.world 83 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Billionaries and CEOs don't bother to show up to jury duty

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[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 112 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Huckledebuck@sh.itjust.works 117 points 5 days ago (2 children)

"Jury nullification is a fundamental aspect of the American jury system, allowing jurors to acquit defendants despite overwhelming evidence of guilt if they deem the law unjust or immoral. This concept has its roots in colonial America and has been exercised throughout U.S. history, often in response to unjust laws or societal norms."

For those not on the know.

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[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 132 points 5 days ago
[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 128 points 5 days ago (5 children)

When this happens, it means the laws that enable these people are no longer acceptable to the people. That's a dangerous place to be.

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[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Both teams will be given an opportunity to eliminate potential jurors they believe are too sympathetic to the one side or the other.

Good luck with that, you can only weed out a limited number, and there's a fucking lot of us.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 76 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Maybe this is somewhat similar to a woman killing her rapist, after police refuse to investigate? There are probably examples of leniency in such cases.

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