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Alcohol.

Lots and lots of people lean heavily on it and think that alcohol is the spice of their life. When, it contributes to so many problems than it's so-called benefits. We tried, in America anyways, to outright ban alcohol. Problem was that the person who wanted it banned, was too extremist.

Like he didn't think it all through and think just going for the jugular of the problem is what will work. When, it didn't and just made people work around it until eventually the ban was dismantled.

So, since then, we've been putting up with drunk drivers, drunk disputes, drunk abusers and other issues. I still wish we could just slam our hands down at the desk and demand we sit to discuss in how to properly deal with this issue than people proclaiming that it's not a problem.

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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

I think there are plenty of things that can't be solved, but nothing that can't be improved.

Homelessness, there are just some people who don't fit into modern life - maybe they can't be housed, but conditions could be improved.

Poverty, there is no complete solution that won't be worse than the problem (yet) but things could be so much better than they are with the means we do have.

Pollution, there is probably no way we can live with our current technology without causing pollution but again - we could make substantial improvements with the tech we do have now.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

High impact youth sports. Destroys joints, destroys brains, destroys futures, but if you suggest getting rid of them, you're a cultural betrayer.

Human nature. Itcwas necessary to beat out the other species, but it didn't evolve with society. Many of the things other people have mentioned are really just unevolved human nature. Greed, selfishness, racism, crime.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 hour ago
[–] Merlu@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Populism

This is as old as the democracy itself, and we still don't know how to fix it. People are so easily driven by their emotions and stubborn about their political opinions that you only have to exploit cynically their low instincts to take the power, especially in a crisis context. And once populists are in the power, they hardly give it back.

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

Journalism that has any tooth whatsoever would mostly fix this.

As long as no proper journalistic standards exists, populists can pour their BS down the media drain unquestioned, unchallenged. If that's all you hear about a topic, that's what you'll believe.

[–] aturtlesdream@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

Religion amd the fighting it causes in it's name

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Antivaxxers and weaponized disinformation that leads to that as well as other problems. I'm not talking about the vaccine hesitant who come around with more education by their doctor, or even the dumbass delayed vaccine schedules they want to do for no sensible reason, all it does is make your kid cry more times than they'd have to, I'm talking about the ones who completely believe in Andrew Wakefield's shit study with the twelve kids at his son's birthday party which for some reason they rely upon as the gospel. The ones who are now turning down vitamin K in their newborn so they risk bleeding into their brain, and believe measles isn't a big deal, just another childhood illness. They're absolutely insane and fed a diet of this continually by social media dumpster fires like Facebook. As far as I am concerned, Mark Zuckerberg should be tried for war crimes and genocide at the Hague. Here is a comment I saw the other night from one of the plague enthusiasts, which also makes it very clear they don't care if non-white children die.

I worked in an ER ten years ago, and while the insanity that has onset with these people since the advent of COVID did not yet exist, there were still some who bought into this nonsense, and they'd come screaming in with their kid who was going downhill fast with whooping cough or whatever, and they are always the most obnoxious pushy people about getting their kid seen RFN. And the thing is you have to because an unvaccinated child has no immune resources to rely upon in their bodies, which one nurse describes as "going to the well", ie a normal vaccinated person's body fights back against infection by doubling their heart or breathing rate as their antibodies kick in. A child with no immunity immediately begins to go under and has no such help from their bodies. And the parents are always massive idiots and ask stupid shit about why you aren't treating them with intravenous vitamin C or doing a CT scan (which there is no reason for) or whatever else they pull out of their primitive forebrains full of garbage. A child with Hib epiglottitis is not going to be able to be intubated and is going to need a tracheostomy, and these parents simply don't or won't understand it.

[–] invertedspear@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago

Homelessness.

Looking beyond the argument that some people prefer the freedom to following any of the rules required by most of the organizations that might provide help.

It’s not that hard to fix, but there’s little will to tackle it properly. Homelessness is a local problem, and the NIMBY solution just exports it to another locality. If a locality solves it for their local population, they’ll then get overwhelmed by the NIMBY localities “solving” it with bus tickets. The only real solution has to come at a federal level, and there lies the lack of will. Federal government sees a local problem and refuses to help since there are local governments.

[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

In sweden they raised the price of alcohol 10 fold making it a luxury good and not something to drain your sorrows with. I think the hardest problem to solve is human greed.

[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 hours ago

Greed is the biggest issue we have in this world right now.

It should be made to be a mental health disorder that must be treated professionally and by taking away the money not needed to operate their business.

Kill tax breaks and strip the rich with 90% taxes on everything over 5 million dollars of any money they make even capital gains and investment income.

Own one home pay regular taxes, own two double the tax, own three triple the tax and so on until no one wants to own more homes. Same goes for corpos that rent to people at above market rates using software to drive rental prices up.

Greed must be made to be shameful and punishable not accepted and desired. Robber barons like Musk and Bezos should taxed into non existence.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

OP is apparently unaware that society would not exist if it weren't for alcohol.

[–] logging_strict@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

japanese preferring natto over peanut butter

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Probably that many people are like exclusively emotion driven. I don't think we should all be like purely logical Vulcans. Emotions are very fast and can be a good survival tool. Like if you're waiting for the train and a bear wanders onto the platform, you don't need to wait to logically evaluate if it's a threat. Just run.

But people rely on emotions for everything. We all do this. So you have like someone telling you something factual and uncomfortable, and you just reject it.

"Eating meat is bad for the environment and is cruel to animals. We should all eat a lot less meat" makes a lot of people's emotions flare up. The facts don't matter. They feel like they're being insulted, that the other person is a blowhard, blah blah blah.

The oatmeal did a comic about this, actually: https://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe

I think this is why we can't have nice things.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

This cartoon is SO good.

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 5 points 15 hours ago

I don't really agree anything is impossible to fix. Maybe I'm optimistic but I think with enough time things can get better. As far as I know alcohol is much less common among younger people and there are more people avoiding it entirely now. Or maybe by impossible you meant really difficult.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

The idea that people in charge should be better, so their actions can't be questioned; rather than that they should be better, so their actions should be scrutinized. It's so backwards and it enables nearly all of the worst abuses of power. It might be harder to fix people being attracted to power or being straight up malicious, but if we could solve the authority problem, then those would have a safeguard in a lot of scenarios. It's so close to being solvable, too; people grow up experiencing misuses of authority that hurt them, they should understand the problem. But somehow it still seems so prevalent, that authority is treated as being above questioning or consequences. I hate it. But it is possible to change.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

In the US and Canada?

Car dependency / Car centrism.

Sure, we have a few large cities with non roadway mass transit.

But uh, in general, we've got terminal car brain, and I do not see this fundamentally changing.

The vast majority of places will continue being designed around cars instead of people.

Cars and fuel costs will keep going up, less and less people will have them, and (again excepting a few extremely dense and expensive cities) we will just go to mass private car rentals/shares instead of actual mass transit or meaningfully redesigning cities.

Sidewalks? Bike lanes? Go fuck yourself, you don't matter if you don't own a car, wait an hour for a bus (if one exists), get an uber, have a friend with a car.

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I wouldn't be so pessimistic. The Netherlands was also a car dependent place that bulldozed neighbourhoods for highways a few dozen years ago and look at where they are now. Change can happen, it just needs a critical mass of supporters and time, lots of time.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Us Americans just elected a fascist, who won the popular vote, who wants to do the exact opposite of a massive infrastructure rework, he and his sycophants want to cut every kind of government funding for social and government services of all kinds, keep 'joking' about invading Mexico, annexing Canada, buying Greenland.

We do not have a mass of supporters who are effective at applying pressure on the government... because we now, even more obviously, live in a naked oligarchy that controls the government and mass media... our democracy is broken, our representatives are purchased, our population heavily subject to anti intellectual right wing propoganda funded by oligarchs.

We also do not have lots and lots of time.

Many states in the US are currently seeing home insurance companies either dramatically raising rates or just leaving: The climate catastrophe driven collapse of many areas has begun, and it will only get worse without a massive coordinated government directed response... which goes dorectly against the ideology of most of our oligarchs and most of our people who believe what those oligarchs tell them to via the media they own.

We will not have the money to build out better transit infrastructure ... that will all be spent responding to more and more intense natural disasters and internal migrants.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Wait til the petro dollar crashes. It's going to be hilarious

[–] mukt@lemmy.ml 5 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

EVs are coming, no matter how expensive/wasteful, you'd always have a car option.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Are there EV longhaul trucks that are at cost and performance parity with ICE longhaul trucks on the horizon?

I don't think so.

That means that logistics costs for basically everything gets significantly more expensive when ICE fuel costs go up.

We could lessen this problem by building out more freight rail capacity, and a whole lot more minor rail lines so that trucks don't routinely drive halfway across the continent and are used less often...

...but we are not.

So, that means that when gas/diesel prices go up, everything gets more expensive... including ICE and EV personal vehicles.

Currently, generally, EVs (and Hybrids) are already 20% to 30% more expensive than their ICE counterparts, even after subsidies/rebates, and are only less expensive than the ICE counterpart in a long run of 10+ years due to lower ongoing fuel costs...

But if gas/diesel prices significantly rise and never go back down...

All vehicles become more expensive.

If ICE vehicle ongoing fuel costs are now so high that an average person can't afford them...

The only other choice is EVs ... but those now have a stupendous sticker price.

So you end up with even less people being able to afford any vehicle whatsoever, but a society that is physically designed to... require one.

So then you end up with a society of an upper class of EV owners, and everyone else who used to be able to afford a midrange ICE car now having to use ICE/EV motorcycles or EBikes... for daily commutes, in all weather.

No more AC or Heating for your completely environmentally exposed 30 minute to 2hr commute to work through a heatwave or heavy snow or rain.

They'd have to rent an EV vehicle to do 2 weeks worth of grocery shopping or move any kind of substantial cargo like a bed, or move more than 2 people a considerable distance, start arranging ride shares to and from work in some kind of comfort.

Oh, and a ton of Americans are functionally too obese/unhealthy/injured to be able to actually use a motorcycle or EBike. So just count them out of the workforce if they can't find ride shares I guess.

[–] logging_strict@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

git solves this.

i love me some doom pr0n now and again, but it sounds alot like some people are due for some exercise and they'll be just fine. Things might turn out for the better

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

... git?

Like... git hub, git commit?

???

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 3 points 20 hours ago

As they do, they're quickly turning into indicators of privilege. If/when the petro dollar crashes I totally don't expect billy bob that drives his eight cylinder diesel to hold any resentment towards EV drivers when he's stuck paying for something that he can't afford gas for. But hey what do I know I prefer old school bicycles.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

If I had more time under my belt I'd probably buy one. The 100k+ pricetag is just too much right now

[–] Rexios@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

$100k+ in what currency? The base model of the EV I drive is under $45k

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

U$. The Rivian I want is about $120k

[–] Rexios@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago

You can’t make a generalizing statement about how EVs are expensive and then say you were talking about one of most expensive models you can buy…

[–] Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

Guns in America. The need to act inspires fear on part of enthusiasts to buy more guns, ammo, support politicians that bolster stonewalls to any legislation that could make the country safer from irresponsible gun owners. The lack of meaningful action while this is happening shows how screwed the nation is as a gun cult continues to grow and grow.

[–] mub@lemmy.ml 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Our inability to trust anyone foreign or unfamiliar. This legacy of our evolution used to be the safest way to live. No it just holds us all back.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I think this one is closer to being solved than we think, because we know the things that can help. Travel and simply meeting other people being the big one. And there are enough people who are accepting of outsiders that we know it's possible on a large scale.

[–] Merlu@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

Totally disagree. The rise of populist politicians using xenophobic rhetoric is the proof that this mechanism is still strong.

[–] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 23 hours ago

alcohol is especially hard to ban because it's just sugar and yeast, and you can even use natural yeast if it gets banned, and you can use fruit if sugar gets banned. While with drugs some tyrannical empire might be able to ban every single lab-related equipment and chemical (and even then, you would be surprised what people can make by themselves without anything else other then natural resources, I mean that's how we got here as a species), alcohol is such a simple recipe that it's just plain impossible to regulate effectively, and the current way of having it cheap enough that people don't brew their own but expensive enough that the 99% of the population doesn't turn into alcoholics is good enough

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Similar to this, I've got a real beef with our unresolved insecuritues we have as a people (in principle. Obviously in practise this is hard).

I feel like the insecurities that essentially, drive us, are really holding us back from meaningful progress on our legitimately hard problems with climate, energy/food distribution, etc...

We're still drawn into BS distractions and opposing teams and whatnot like a bunch of monkeys with sticks (which is apt, to be fair)

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Nearly every societal problem has a solution, but you need a medical / buddhist / marxist / approach (probably a lot of other disciplines / lenses use this approach too, those are just some ones that more or less follow this).

  • Correctly identify the actual problem.
  • Find the root cause(s) of the problem.
  • Name / describe the state without that problem.
  • Outline the cure / steps to carry it out and reach that goal.

The only problems that aren't solvable, are things that would break the laws of physics.

As for drugs / alcohol use, lemmygrad and hexbear have a lot of good threads on drug / alcohol use, and how to view it, and handle it collectively. The USA is probably the worst example of a country to look at for alleviating the societal ills brought about by alcohol and drug mis-use, so its good to look at how socialist countries have tackled it throughout history. If you can't find a thread I'd recommend asking over there, because you'll get a lot of good answers.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s described in the bible: man’s need to work.

“Work” meaning “Do things you don’t feel like doing, because they need to be done”.

Our emotional configuration evolved in an environment that is gone. In that environment, what one feels like doing, and what one needs to do, are the same. That’s why that motivational configuration evolved: it optimized our survival and reproduction in that environment.

But our civilization has wrapped us in a new environment, that has different cause and effect relationships than our EEA (environment of evolutionary adaptedness).

This means it will always be necessary to do things we don’t feel like doing, or to suffer the consequences.

Generally speaking, this is the problem of “work”. The bible refers to this as a sort of eternal curse humanity must suffer as a result of being expelled from Eden, which itself resulted from our eating of the tree of knowledge.

When we parted from our basic animal ways, we took on this curse of having to force ourselves. It’s what Marx refers to as the “alienation of labor”.

And as society progresses, it’s only going to get worse.

For example right now, one must shower and dress and go out in the cold to go to a job in order to get money to survive.

That’s pretty far from “eat whatever fruit looks pretty”. But it’s also not as bad as it’s going to be.

Our brains are capable of finding some meaning in that daily work struggle.

Soon we will have more automation and some kind of UBI. It will be an option to not work.

And in some ways that will be better. Just like working at Amazon moving boxes is safer and more predictable than living in the wild, having UBI will be safer and more predictable than working at Amazon.

But also, just like that dangerous jungle existence creates an inherent meaning in the survival, feels rich and alive, and how that effect is diminished when working a job surrounded by civilization, in that same way having basic income is going to give us even less inherent meaning to our days.

We’ll have more options, and as a result we’ll have more existential anxiety. There will be more freedom, less of a default path for the day, and this will make us feel even more alienated.

This is a problem that will always exist in our society: the less danger and difficulty our external environment provides us, the more difficult it will be to get ourselves moving. The more susceptible we will be to depression and anxiety.

This is why people fantasize about a zombie apocalypse. Yes it’s horrible. Yes it’s full of terror. But it more closely resembles the environment of natural hostility we evolved in, so it’s easy to know what to do. Gather supplies, secure your shelter, kill zombies. It’s simple and straightforward, and so it would feel very alive. Depression disappears when one is running for their life. Anxiety is eliminated by fear. Confusion is eliminated by hunger.

We may get “lucky” and see civilization collapse. Or there may be a war into which we are all drawn as front line fighters. We may have an alien invasion.

But then we’re just back to the other kind of suffering. The kind we emerged from to find this world.

These two types of fuckedness complement one another, and we’ll always have some nonzero combination of the two.

[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 1 points 21 hours ago

Thanks for this. Was very thought provoking. It goes along with something my generation teases about with growing up in the 80’s. It was an entertaining and dangerous world and we didn’t have time for all this anxiety depression stuff. Haha

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Poverty. Not for lack of resources or ability, but for lack of will.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For schaudenfreude. Capitalism would collapse without the schaudenfreude of enforced inequality.

Almost everyone trained to worship capitalism is always taught to see their worth as a function of how badly other people are losing. That's why homelessness is an expensive problem we choose to pay extra for.

Studies have shown that all the conditioned shelters, programs, and cleanup are far more expensive than just providing conditionless basic housing for everyone without. But the homeless serve an essential purpose under runaway capitalism that takes control of a society instead of being a lowly tool of it: Capitalist Scarecrows and to look down on and fear becoming.

How can I feel rich if there aren't poories dying in the streets?

[–] johannes@lemmy.jhjacobs.nl 20 points 1 day ago

Greed.

America is a great example of this.

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