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[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago

Can proprietary software be justified?

[–] Soulifix@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 6 days ago

Yeah.

For example, does Microsoft deserve my money for how much of a dumping they've taken onto Windows since Windows 8? No, they don't.

Because if I did give Microsoft my money, I'm REWARDING them for their half-assery.

[–] sp3ctre@feddit.org 83 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Longer answer: easily yes.

[–] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

French Answer: Mais Oui 🥖🥸

[–] far_university190@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago

German answer: jawohl!

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Huh. Based on the community this was posted in, I can assume that the answer the video comes to is "yes" and not watch it. But according to Betteridge's law of headlines the answer is "no." I need to argue about this without watching it but I don't know what stance to argue about.

Ah! I'll use the Orbit plugin to get an AI to summarize the video for me. Hm. The AI-generated summary says the video describes an anecdote about music copyright violations, talks about some ethical considerations about both music and software piracy, and then:

The speaker concludes by acknowledging the complexity of the issue and the importance of considering the perspectives of all parties involved.

So I guess the answer was "Maybe?" How am I supposed to have a pointless Internet argument about "Maybe?"

Bah. Someone attack me for using AI, at least that's a debate I can sink my teeth into.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lazy prick! Should have just put the video on in the background while doing dishes, or do what I did and briefly skim the comments for someone to fight with! AI is dumb, it's not even named effectively and you're dumb for using it and a sheeple for calling it AI in the first place!
Fight me! ❤️

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Joke's on you, I have a dishwasher machine! Robots do my dishes for me too! It is you who is the dumb one, having to labor manually as you do!

Ah, there we go. Thanks.

[–] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And now I'm here to fight with both of you, not about what you're arguing about, but I'm going to police your tone and call you both stupid because you didn't argue in the arbitrary fashion I've determined is "correct!"

This is the least helpful contribution I can make, while simultaneously attacking you both!

[–] truxnell@infosec.pub 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Is it to early to drop in and call everyone Nazis or nah?

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[–] mogranja@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 1 week ago

Is this the online equivalent of fisticuffs?

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[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 week ago

I bought a quite expensive piece of animation software (that cost over $1000) to use professionally. The specific term it was sold to me under was a "perpetual license." I took this to mean "never ending", which is the dictionary definition of the word "perpetual." You can probably guess where this is going.

A few years later, in the middle of a professional project, it stopped working. I contacted support, and was told that they changed the way they were doing licenses so I'd have to buy a new one (at almost double the price) or eat shit. I'm paraphrasing, but that was the gist of it.

So yeah, if you're thinking of buying a Toon Boom Harmony perpetual license, maybe save yourself a lot of money and hassle and just pirate it instead. Or tell them to get fucked and use their direct competitor. I have done both.

[–] mogranja@lemmy.eco.br 34 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I want the stuff, the stuff is there. I take it. The stuff is still there, nothing was lost, nothing was stolen.

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[–] Trilobite@lemm.ee 34 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's always moral to steal from billionaires

[–] quirzle@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 week ago

I agree, but software piracy isn't stealing from anyone.

Stealing definitively requires depriving someone of their own stuff. Piracy is more akin to a massive crowdsourced library. We're all just helping to share the burden of hosting costs.

[–] higgsboson@dubvee.org 5 points 1 week ago

Most Billionaires don't write much code.

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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)
  1. It's morally good when people access information, culture, and entertainment.
  2. It's morally good when the author of a work gets rewarded by their work.

Piracy is morally justified when 1 is a more pressing matter than 2. As such, it's justified in situations like this:

  • If, in the absence of piracy, the pirate would still not pay for the goods - because #2 is set up to zero (the author of the work is not rewarded anyway).
  • If it's impossible to obtain the goods without piracy. For example, abandonware.
  • If the author of the work would get breadcrumbs of the money used to access legally the goods, and the pirate compensates the author directly (e.g. donation).
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[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why do I sneeze when I’m not even sick?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Irritant particles in your nose. Or you may be someone with a photic sneeze reflex: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photic_sneeze_reflex

[–] sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] k_rol@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why is my voice so low in the morning?

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Your bed is too low to the ground, as we age our voices begin to struggle to get upright. Try whiskey.

I am not a Doctor, this is not medical advice.

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[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Likely a contraction from a lack of activity while sleeping. Similar to how singers need to do vocal exercises to achieve the full range of what their voice can achieve wbich, in my experience, means being able to reach higher notes than lower notes.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 week ago
[–] Varyag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes. Next stupid question.

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Honestly, I don't have any issue using a pirated software for my own personal use.

I put the line where you use the software to make money.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

Even then, I have no problem with self-employed people using it to make money. But if a corporation you work for does it: snitch and get that BSA payday.

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Can purchasing anything within the system of monstrous exploitation called global capitalism be justified?

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No unless you lack self respect

Corporate is your enemy and paying them money is funding your own oppression

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[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I am not stealing. It's there, I take it and it's still there. Don't know why these posts keep popping up in piracy communities. Same plague was there on reddit too. Like seriously it's 2025.

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[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Everyone has already given their response so there's nothing really to add other than, well, there's lots of reasons to justify piracy. Most of them are even provided by the publishers / distributors themselves!

Also it's weird to browse the top 10 responses or even below, and NOT see this xkcd posted or even linked. What is going on, Lemmy?

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What's the justification for not allowing me to make a copy? Those who decry piracy call it theft, but it's not theft since they aren't losing anything. Not a physical product they could run out of, nor a potential sale as has been shown time and time again; people who pirate a thing generally wouldn't have purchased the thing anyway.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

It's copyright infringement, which I don't give a crap about.

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[–] tht@social.pwned.page 10 points 1 week ago
[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is there a need for justification?

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[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Usability and user experience. I've been on irc, newsgroups, dc++, etc etc. hell i traded d2 items for game keys on d2jsp.

Why? Convenient as fuck. From my perspective, fuck anyone who is gonna tell me how to consume media. Give me a better experience than i can give myself or fuck off. I'll give my money happily (i have subscriptions) if it's a good service. If it's the only service, meh AND if it sucks ass well, fuck off again.

[–] rolandtb303@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

if they put in DRM that makes the plugins 10x as big (looking at you, Acustica. I don't even use their plugins because of that), or they make the legit version have some bullshit always-online "all-in-one" software (i.e Native Access) which in turn makes the software a bit of a faff to get working in Linux (to install legit libraries for legit kontakt, native access stores those libraries as .iso files and does some virtual drive fuckery a la DAMEONTools), then yes, if the pirated version is quicker to set up and run (and install libraries for), it is justified imo.

Also i hate theaters and streaming services. I'd rather watch whatever movie I think is cool in the comfort of my PC rather than having to drive to the theater (if it's even on there in the first place), or paying for 9000 streaming services now and only watch like a couple of things. The wait for a good webrip (even more so for a BluRay) is worth it.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

Why would anyone need to justify their piracy?

[–] style99@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Better question: Who decides what software "piracy" even is?

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