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Can they rush in after the first two words, before you say "not"? Can they enter if they stuff their ears before they hear the final word?

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[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 12 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

The requirement isn't that vampires need to hear you say "You can come in," it's that you need to extend them a formal invitation and lower the barrier that protects your home. Theoretically, you could lie to the vampire, but they'd probably notice your barrier and wouldn't get fooled.

...you do have a barrier right? You properly consecrated the ground before moving, drew the sigils, and cleansed all existing evil spirits? 'Cuz otherwise, any old spooky creature will probably skip the pleasantries and just get you.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Pretty sure the realtor was supposed to handle all of that.

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 2 points 1 hour ago

any old spooky creature will probably skip the pleasantries and just get you.

If they ain't paying rent I can surely make them uncomfortable enough to leave by just being myself.

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 hours ago

I'm sure it varies by setting but my head canon is it's about intent. They don't need to be granted permission explicitly, they just need you to explicitly want them to enter.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 10 points 6 hours ago

Depends, is this vampire known as Brock Turner?

[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Imagining a vampire showing up to Wayne and Garth's studio.

"You may come in...... NOT!"

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 1 points 41 minutes ago

Borat's House:

"You may.... NOT come in."

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Vampires and humans are not known for enforcing laws against each other. Stake it before you get eaten rule. Eat then deny you were not invited in rule.

I'm not sure there is "binding magical power" in the food's words, and if not, it's not worth considering the food's words. Not much recent history of "magical god intervention" stopping rule breaking, and there would need to be a "magical human+vampire governing interventionist god" there to supervise all interactions.

[–] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 53 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Don't forget that a door mat that says "welcome" counts as consent.

[–] pslightlypsycho47@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What We Do In The Shadows reference?

[–] criticon@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

At least I remember it from Renfield

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 14 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I just realized that I'd be pretty safe from vampire infestations. I hate having visitors, and will make (up) any excuse to avoid them. "Sure, but I was about to leave to deal with a work-related emergency. I don't know when I'll be home."
...and then they can sit there alone until I see them leaving on my door camera.

I don't mind visiting others, because then I can leave when I'm spent. At home, however, it's where I expect to be left alone.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Usually, they only need permission once, then they can enter at will

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

With those implications, they'd never be allowed in.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Assuming that vampires can be seen on camera

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

Assuming someone knocking on my door without being visible on my camera would get a response to begin with.

[–] m4xie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 11 hours ago

You said "sure", you're done!

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 32 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

This inspired me to keep a handheld mirror near my front door, for when someone inevitably asks if they can come in, I can grab it and do a very obvious vampire check

[–] legopika@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

I hope your can find a mirror made with silver, most modern ones aren't, and that's why vampires didn't show up in them

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 28 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Dude. Thank you. I would've let so many vampires in.

As much as I appreciate it though, we're poor as fuck, vampires still welcome.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 13 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You can use an old silver spoon or knife as a mirror

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 15 points 11 hours ago

Or stab a stake in their heart! If they are a vampire, they will either instantly turn to dust or at least be paralysed, so you can easily dispose of them.

Otherwise it's going to be just ordinary murder.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 10 hours ago

Dammit, time to hit the antique store.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You're mixing stuff up. Mirrors reflect souls, and since vampires don't have souls, they don't have no reflections.

[–] dgbbad@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

By that logic, no inanimate objects should show up either. I'd look in a mirror and would see behind me through the back wall and all the way to my neighbors inside their now invisible soulless house, and all neighbors beyond. It'd just be a bunch of people at various distances in my mirror line of sight in an infinite void behind me as far as the eye can see. And we'd all appear naked.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

That's correct, and the "vampires have no reflection" thing is stupid. Most modern interpretations ditch it.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

That's hot.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 89 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

the preferred nomenclature is "come back with a warrant".

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[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 17 points 14 hours ago

I think it's safe to say that intent is what matters, not the technicality of communicating that intent. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intention

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago

They don't need to they just evict you instead.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 49 points 18 hours ago (9 children)

No. It is magic so they would not be able to enter partway through an answer as doing so would make it clear that the vampire knew it was really a no.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They don't know until the third word, they only hypothesize it's a no.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

If they are magically forbidden to enter without permission, but also don't know every language or phrasing of 'come on in', then there is a magical way to know intent without needing to hear all the words.

Otherwise they wouldn't be able to work with nods and hand motions from people who cannot speak, shrugs and grunts from drunk college students, etc.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Hmm, this was debated already and in this comment they provided a peer reviewed journal article about intent vs language and understanding. It sums things up better than I could. They clearly cared a lot more than me about this.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

The thing with sources is that sometimes it is hard to know how reliable they are, and sometimes they do let you down.

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[–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 38 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

It seems to me that the wording itself is unimportant, but rather the intention. So I would imagine no

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