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Let's say that you have an opportunity to gain billions to fix the society from the top. Do you think that you would keep your integrity and use your money for the greater good, or that you would be corrupted by your power?

If so, would you still accept the offer knowing that you would just make the situation worse?

And if you believe in yourself, how would you try to convince an hypotetical entity to give you this wealth?

To avoid regrets let's say that if you decline the offer your memory about the deal gets erased.

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[–] That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

Do you think that you would keep your integrity and use your money for the greater good, or that you would be corrupted by your power?

I suppose it's a matter of perspective. Very few people in the world ever see themselves as actually evil. Every villain is the hero in their own story.

But if we recognize basic truths about people's preferences, I think a greater good can be achieved. Everyone wants a place to call home and good food on the table. Everyone wants good health and to have a sense of purpose or meaning to their lives.

This is universal, regardless of race, sex, gender, nationality, language (I can't include religion as some religions demand the oppression & extermination of others).

No, not because I'd necessarily be corrupted, but because I'm a dipshit who doesn't know shit about fuck, I'd probably, crash the world economy completely on accident and then have an emotional breakdown about the fact that I'd ruined billions of lives without knowing how to fix it.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)
  • Build lots of free housing everywhere
    • Lowers rent significantly
  • Create a new healthcare provider that everyone is automatically included in with fees of $0
    • Healthcare providers will have to lower their fees to even try to compete
  • Lobby government for fairness doctrine to he reinstated
    • Right-wing media gets neutered
  • Create plentiful public food gardens
    • Retailers have to lower their prices
  • Create a 500km tall gold statue of myself
    • Satellites now have to clear larger orbits.
    • Shining dong to inspire the masses
[–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

For the monument to your hubris, maybe make it a space elevator too? Also satellites can totally get around your enormous shining dong, it won't successfully clear LEO like you hope.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Also satellites can totally get around your enormous shining dong, it won’t successfully clear LEO like you hope.

*narrows eyes*
what have you heard?

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

If its just a money printer then you are basically just a federal reserve/ central bank. I would make myself rich and then buy up a bunch of property to convert into coops and a bunch of wild land to turn to reserves, also some big donations to hospitals. Anything more and I wouldn't trust my ability to predict the economic effects.

[–] runiq@feddit.org 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If I had infinite money, everyone would have infinite money.

Except Steve. Fuck you, Steve

[–] SmoothIsFast@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If everyone has infinite money, it would suddenly become worthless and society would quickly fall into chaos. You must be an anarchist.

[–] runiq@feddit.org 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You know too much. I will get to you first.

Right after I deal with Steve

Edit: In all honesty, I'd probably try and do a Manfred Macx, propping up technologies and social change aimed at leveling the playing field between the rich and the poor.

[–] arthur@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Literal infinite may be problematic. Let's say that I became rich enough by lottery for example. I for sure would live comfortably. But I trust myself to foster positive changes, but have in mind that collective problems can only be solved by collective solutions. Having money gives you power to mobilize people to work, but for the society structure to change, you need more than just that, you will need political change with population support, and that's demand time and a lot of work.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

you will political change with population support, and that's demand time and a lot of work.

To be fair, this is exactly what Rupert Murdoch is doing for the right wing around the world.

[–] arthur@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago

For his own gain.

[–] beesthetrees@feddit.uk 7 points 6 days ago

I will hire people much smarter than me to fix those problems. Climate change? 100 billion to the scientist with the green coat. Poverty? 80 billion to the guy who gave away his only scrap of food. I will become the master delegator. Heck I’ll even have a guy who will do the delegating. Literally have the money do the work for you.

[–] Bojack411@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

2 chicks at the same time and no one would starve or be withought shelter.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

..."I'll tell you what I'd do, man"...

[–] do_not_pm_me@thelemmy.club 7 points 6 days ago

I’d get YouTube premium

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Let’s say that you have an opportunity to gain billions to fix the society from the top.

Society can not, and never will be, fixed from the top.

Nor is money the solution to our problems, if anything, it is a huge part of the cause (and why communism aspires to a moneyless society, among other things).

So even if I say I'd only accept the money if I could instantly redistribute it, as long as other billionaires, and the systems that create and uphold them, exist, my personal actions would probably make little difference in the long run, and any money I shared would end up right back in their pockets (by virtue of how capitalism works).

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

If this is a magical entity, then I would just tell it to give me $100 for every $1,000,000 I use for charitable work that doesn't directly benefit me.

If I give away $1,000,000 100,000 times, that's 100 billion dollars of charitable work. And my net worth would "only" be 10 million dollars, certainly wealthy, but not idiotically wealthy. Plenty for me to invest and have doctor money levels of passive income, but only by giving away the vast vast majority of the money I get.

Or I guess I could just ask the entity to cap my net worth at 10 million dollars, and only give me that money when I have given away some arbitrary amount of money it gives me, like 500 billion dollars or something, Idk.

[–] HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

i would become so evil so quickly

[–] asmoranomar@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Yeah, no kidding. I would never be satisfied with infinite money, I'd need more!

[–] threeganzi@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

I remembered reading a long post on Reddit about what to do if you win big on the lottery.

Reddit History: /u/BlakeClass's comment on What to do if you win The Lottery (GitHub gist)

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 3 points 6 days ago

I think I would be fine. I already have limited wealth and I'm directing a significant portion of it to the betterment of the world around me. If my wealth/income increased tenfold (as an example) I don't think I'd be able to find a use for more than, idk, 15-20% of the additional money? So I'd just heavily ramp up the funds going to charities and local causes.

Extending this out to the infinite wealth scenario, I'd be able to help more causes so I'd need to find out which charities are actually putting money to use for what they say they are, extend my mindset beyond local causes and to the whole globe. Almost certainly drop some fat stacks into buying out basically every fossil fuel corp and start the process of getting that shit phased out. Sure I make some terrible people rich(er) in the short term with the buyouts but fuck it, the environment needs to be prioritized.

How I'd convince this hypothetical entity? Idk, probably just explain all of the above and I guess show some hard data on my track record for this. If the entity is determined to put the money in the hands of someone who is going to do good, either I'll be good enough or I won't.

If its not infinite and "just" billions then I'm probably going to funnel about half of it into local (national) causes and the other half into affecting what positive change I can worldwide. Process for convincing the entity remains the same.

I'd move to Cuba and bankroll the worldwide working class adventure.

Being in a place like Cuba will keep you grounded, you can't go ape shit with spending on nonsense and use it to aggrandize your power. I'd just chill on some Caribbean beaches and smoke cigars with some older Cubans until the bourgeoisie is overthrown.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

Lol if I had truly infinite money, this is a story of what I would do.

I would first have a "magical investment bank" that would promise 200% per annum with interest paid monthly, but only if paid in cash and at least 50 million to start. Have this scheme open for a few months with actual results and interest paid out. This is to get billionaires and megacorps to liquidate their assets into soon to be worthless monetary instruments. Then, everyone in the world but the top 0.1% would get 1 trillion. Everyone's debt is virtually erased, and the old top 0.1% can go ahead, get their money back and feel bad about themselves. With all currency effectively rebased to a billion times than previously, now we can work on solving the world's problems as shoulder-to-shoulder equals. Give the world food, give the world shelter, give the world healthcare, give the people of the world a purpose, give the people socioeconomic freedom, give them trains, give the world a chance at reversing disastrous effects of climate change.

If it didn't work, then my money would be just as worthless any way (unless my infinite money powers could manifest in bottle caps or whatever the newest thing people found value in was).

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Elon? That you? Start with overturning "citizens united"

[–] keksi@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 days ago

Definetly not.

Played enough video games, and when i get upper hand on anything it going to be bad for everyone else.

[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 days ago

I'd be good at first but then slowly get corrupted as I continue on feeling disconnected. The change will be so gradual thatI wouldn't realize until it's too late

Yeah, I’m awesome!

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

yeah I would just hire a really smart people And ask them what they think

[–] Didros@beehaw.org 1 points 6 days ago

I would give it away by making college trust funds for poor kids in my area until I had the 4-5 million left that I would need to retire and never work again. Why anyone has more money than that is beyond me.

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