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The US is actually going to implement a nationwide abortion ban and the measures for how it's gonna be handled are already in the works (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by A_A@lemmy.world to c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/24607393

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@denimaww@lemmy.world

The US is actually going to implement a nationwide abortion ban and the measures for how it's going to be handled are already in the works. This bill, which I link to here: https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/7/text , seems ok at first glance and only seems to want to implement nationwide healthcare centers for women. But when you actually look at what these Pro Women's Healthcare Centers are and mean to offer, it becomes really clear what's going on.

On the first page of the PDF or booklet that appear when you search for the healthcare centers it is clear that they are supported by pro-life organisations and hold extreme pro-life values. And when you read the (very short) booklet it states their values and services that are to be provided. Among them is a requirement for "Abortion Pill Reversal" and encouragement for "Sterilization Reversal". The last page clearly states their values, where among them it states that:

"Abortion is not women's healthcare, because of the damage it causes to women's physical and emotional health and the destruction of unborn life, many of whom are females. Abortion is usually something women turn to when they feel they do not have another choice. This is a tragedy and the opposite of choice and empowerment."

And it goes on to list similiar values. The bill to implement these healthcare centers states that:

"That the House of Representatives—

(1) expresses its support for women nationwide to have access to comprehensive, convenient, compassionate, life-affirming, high-quality health care; and

(2) recognizes the high standards established by Pro Women’s Healthcare Centers consortium as standards worth implementing nationwide."

This means that the values that these Pro Women’s Healthcare Centers have are to be set as standards nationwide.

A link to the PDF/booklet about the Pro Women’s Healthcare Centers (PWHC): https://nacn-usa.org/wp-content/uploads/PWHC-Booklet.pdf

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

People are being gaslit.

The rich just want more people as soldiers or workforce. Having a larger population is not a good thing for the poor people. Smaller workforce means higher wages as per the free market (supply - demand).

And the worst part is, instead of seeing this, people jump to conclude "no, we just need to distribute the resources differently", as if that's gonna happen. It's free labor market all the way, even if that means people living in poverty.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

They’re going to enslave most of us, just watch.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

or workforce.

Not even.

They're constantly trying to find ways to reduce staff to the absolute minimum.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Wow it's almost like the dems did less than nothing about this for 4 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratchet_effect

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm glad you're blaming the dems, because surely that will help anything.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 days ago

It will actually.

In its current form the dems are a center-right republican-lite party. They serve the same oligarchs the Rs do.

You see that in the policies they push and support. Or rather, the lack of policies. They don't do anything constructive that would actually help people unless it's a PR stunt when they need a little boost. And even then they lash it down with narrow scope and means testing.

They are supposed to be the opposition. As in oppose. But they don't. They refuse to. And they actively work to keep people who want to work for the good of the people out of positions of influence. If the dems wanted to, they would never lose an election again. But they don't want to.

Do you know why we have term limits? It's because the populist policy and social programs instituted by FDR made him so popular he was elected to 3 terms as president. Minimum wage, labor laws, social security, etc.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 145 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Ok states rights crowd, fuck around and find out with my states constitutional protection of abortion.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 43 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I'm really curious how California will handle that one. I would expect Newsom to fall in line as part of the protected class, but he is a politician and cares about reelection.

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 102 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Pro Women’s Healthcare"

😡😡😡😡😡😡

Fucking propagandists

[–] scarilog@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Something straight out of 1984. When I read the novel in high school I was naive enough to believe it would never be reflected irl to quite this degree.

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[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 82 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You all voted for this shit.

If you stayed home then you voted for this shit.

[–] some_random_nick@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I think you will be hard pressed to find Republicans on Lemmy. There might be some, but not that many.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 13 points 6 days ago

They didn't get more votes we provided less votes. There are absolutely US citizens on here that did not vote. This was clearly on the table. This is going to hurt, people are going to die, and we need to learn. You simply can't let somebody like that get voted in under those circumstances and then expect to be able to resist.

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[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 67 points 1 week ago (56 children)

yes. elections have consequences. republicans haven't been coy about wanted to outlaw abortion nationwide at the federal level. enough democrats didn't vote in the last election (mostly young people for whom these bans will effect the most, and cause the most harm) to ensure republicans now control ever branch of united states government, the legislative (both house of congress), the judicial (doj and the supreme court), and executive (the presidency). that's a clean sweep, and a wide pipe for the monsters to do just about anything they want to. congratulations.

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[–] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 64 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

For anyone that needs this information, you can (currently) order abortion medicine online in any state. I did it today and it was stupid easy to do. I'm not pregnant, but I wanted to order some as a just-in-case for myself or others.

The Plan C website has a great list of websites you can order from if you're not pregnant. It costs about $150 and some offer financial assistance if you need it. But please do it NOW.

I ordered one from Aid access and one from safe choice. Both asked a few questions that didn't ask for personal information or ID. They mostly just need an email, address to send it, and a credit/debit card to pay.

Good luck out there everyone.

Edit: just to clarify I'm not talking about plan B. I'm talking about medication meant to induce an abortion at up to 13 weeks of gestation. mifepristone and misoprostol specifically.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

I’m a woman who does not have sex with men but I got myself plan b just in case of emergency like a rape.

[–] CuddlyCassowary@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Do you happen to know the shelf-life of the medicine? Thank you so much for that resource. Likewise, I don’t need it, but I’d like to be a help to others who may find themselves in a difficult situation.

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[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I drove to a friend to Kansas last year for an abortion. I still don't know if it was mine. Either way if those services weren't available then she would have suffered tremendously by having that baby. As badly as I wanted that baby to be mine it didn't matter in the end because it's her body not mine. It's a simple as that and fuck anyone that wants to take those rights away

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 days ago

You did the right thing.

Can't have a child grow up in poor circumstances.

[–] A_A@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

You did the right thing, I feel for you both.

[–] Wytch@lemmy.zip 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mildly infuriating?

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[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I mean, if a nation wants to fight a big war within 15 years, first they need to grow soldiers, right?

if they ban abortion and then set up a pipeline from orphanages to army then you get a lot of jackboots in 15ish years

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[–] Tot@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

"abortion pill reversal" sounded like bullshit to me, so I looked it up.

Here's what ACOG has to say: Facts Are Important: Medication Abortion "Reversal" Is Not Supported by Science

[–] A_A@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (4 children)

credit for this post to : @denimaww@lemmy.world

Hi Denimaww,

i saw that you made the above post into the "politics" community which has rules preventing posting anything that is not based on a newspaper article. This must be why it was removed in that community and which is why i recuperated your post and gave you credit in this community here. Also, i see that you are new to Lemmy and i wish to welcome you here. This sites' learning curve could be a bit steep. Please don't hesitate to ask for advice.

Take care 😌

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[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if only the government had an 'efficiency' expert on staff.. one would expect their evaluation of this proposal to be something like this:

we already have a long-time, trusted nationwide network of health care clinics.. for women (and men).. that provides reproductive care (and more). absolutely no sense in reinventing the wheel, when this one has been going for 108 years. the easiest, cheapest, and most efficient thing to do would be to toss them some federal funds every year, let them provide the care that's needed--where it's needed, and stay the fuck out of the exam room and out of their way.

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[–] seven_phone@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is not hippocratic or woman centred and you said tremendous twice within ten words you crazy sods.

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