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If Trump does what he's promising, North America will change today | CBC (www.cbc.ca)
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The former parliamentary budget officer Kevin Page projects a contraction in the neighbourhood of the 2009 recession, somewhere between a 2 to 2.5 per cent drop in GDP, along with a ballooning national deficit and debt.

But there's an even bigger story being re-written. It involves Canada's place in the world after 90 years of increased tethering to the U.S. If Trump plows forward he'd be interrupting far more than a few decades of Canada-U.S. free trade; he'd be ending an era that stretches back even longer.

Canada and the United States have steadily built closer economic ties with each other since 1935, as they clawed out of an interminable depression.

These two leaders, Prime Minister Mackenzie King, left, and President Franklin D. Roosevelt, spent a year negotiating the removal of tariffs on hundreds of products during the Great Depression. It set the pattern for generations of trade opening. (National Archives of Canada)

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 45 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Trump’s unfounded/false declaration of a national emergency, along with justifying tariffs based on small deficit and opportunity to extort sovereignty, and refusing to negotiate, or accept the substantial Canadian appeasement policies, and photo ops, of the last week, makes these tariffs an act of war.

Demand your politicians act accordingly.

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 26 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Our politicians are already planning to act accordingly with retaliatory measures. What would you prefer they do instead?

[–] vastard@lemmynsfw.com 32 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Go hard and target US corporations by invalidating US trade laws and allowing affected Canadian manufacturing to make lower cost tech products without the greed monopoly margins.

Cory Doctorow link

[–] Grimpen@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

Heck yeah! If USMCA/NAFTA2 is out the window, ditch all that IP BS. Cory Doctorow is so correct!

[–] beliquititious@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I dunno, y'all burned down the white house once, so maybe start there?

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

As much as I would like to take credit as a Canadian, that was the British.

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 23 points 5 days ago

We need to join the EU

[–] _____@lemm.ee 21 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Very hard for me to not hate all Americans today.

[–] ricketyrackets@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago

A lot of Americans, just like Canadians are docile non confrontational people, myself included. Peace is always better than war.

That being said, this gives a country like Canada and Mexico the opportunity to fight for us for once and not let the U.S. steamroll us into submission.

This also allows for the EU whom the Trump administration is also going after with threats of Tariffs the opportunity to prepare for a trade war that benefits them.

However, I personally don’t think Trump has the cognitive capacity to get this or come up with these ideas on his own. He’s far too stupid at this point. These threats are being presented to him from other people in my opinion.

[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

I voted for Kamala. My family and friends did as well. ):

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Not all, just the majority πŸ˜•

[–] Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I hate a lot of people for different reasons.

I hate the people who voted for him, but they are not the majority.

I hate the people who stayed home. I get it. Harris had issues. But so many were saying they didn't want it vote for her because of Gaza. Now, Gaza will get glassed while we have so many more problems at home.

Personally, I don't care if it seems selfish, I do not have the capacity to care about Gaza anymore. The only chance we had was convincing Harris. Now I'm too worried about what will happen to me and my friends as queer people.

And that's before we get to the general economic issues. Shit is about to get really desperate for everyone.

So many of us tried to get those people to see. I'm positive much of the Gaza stance was being pushed by the right to split the left. We'll it worked. They fell for it. Now we have even more issues.

I can not say this with any more virtiol: fuck anyone who didn't vote for Harris, regardless of the reason, but especially if it was an active decision because of Gaza. You both actively made things worse for Gaza and doomed us all.

You wanted shortsighted smug feel goods about taking a moral high ground. In doing so, you paved the way for fascism and laid down the fucking red carpet.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Muslim Americans were kind of okay with Trump because they generally agree with most conservative ideology, including Christofascism.

Largely, they don't really care about gay people.

Or Mexicans. Or black people. Or women, even as women themselves.

[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 days ago

The voter suppression sure didn't help. Millions of key votes blatantly ignored because of the race of the voter. Only one to report on it is the Guardian.

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Why? Even to his strongest supporter this must seem... unnecessary? Canada's America's hat. We're wearing it straight. Why fuck with the hat?

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago

Meanwhile, there is a cramped rumbling in the ass of Canada's pants.

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 5 days ago

To weaken the West as a whole