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Top Democrats warn Trump tariffs will ‘hit Americans in their wallets’ (www.theguardian.com)
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Summary

Top Democrats, led by Chuck Schumer, are criticizing Trump’s new tariffs on Canada, Mexico, and China, warning they will raise prices for American families.

Trump is imposing 25% tariffs on most Canadian and Mexican goods and 10% on Chinese imports, prompting retaliatory moves.

Democrats argue the tariffs unfairly hurt workers while benefiting corporations. Trump acknowledged potential economic pain but defended the move.

Meanwhile, Democratic senators introduced a bill to require congressional approval for tariffs, and even business groups allied with Trump are voicing concerns.

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[–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 46 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

Warn, shit.

Get your shit together and do your fucking jobs and put an end to this.

Edit: A lot of comments pointing out the problems with Congressional powers vs. Presidential. All good points. However, (at least up until Musk changed the passwords) Congress can refuse to provide funding for stupid or harmful executive orders, including tariffs. And yes, to put that through, they'd need a majority. Unless it only works if they do it secretly, there ought to be a way to convince red-state corporations to bring some pressure to bear on their representatives and gather the necessary votes - at least for this bs.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They can’t do fuck all without 67 seats in the Senate. Our constitution is dumb af.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What do you want Democrats to do about this? Presidency has control of tariffs, always had.

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Literally just show an ounce of retaliation.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

They might show some, and the Republicans show a little, but then still have a 50/50 tie broken by "JD" "Vance" even in ridiculous cases like Hegseth.

I mean, I want a party to fight for the American people, too, but....not sure what that would really accomplish?

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Whataboutism.

That has literally nothing to do with the tariffs here.

[–] hypna@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think the idea here is that, as Republicans have repeatedly demonstrated, the minority party can do a lot to simply break the government.

If the Democrats had the intestinal fortitude to be real resistance against an authoritarian takeover, they could start filibustering everything, and using every procedural trick to delay or block every Republican action until some set of demands are met. Perhaps removing Musk from every government system, or reinstating all of the DoJ personnel who have been retaliated against.

Here we see Democrats basically unanimously going along with the Republican agenda so that they can feel like "the adults in the room," rather than fighting for the life of our republic.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

And you still don't get it.

Republicans can do that because their argument is that government doesn't work. Democrats are the party of Government can work.

It's easy to torpedo and filibuster when you don't believe in the system.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Exactly. The qons have no problem at all pointing a gun at the head of everything Americans hold precious and forcing concessions from everyone else.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 13 points 5 months ago

In addition to the other comments pointing out that the presidency has (and has always had) control of tariffs, from the article:

Meanwhile, Democratic senators introduced a bill to require congressional approval for tariffs, and even business groups allied with Trump are voicing concerns.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

a majority of their colleagues have orange & shit-stained faces, who are all-in on on fucking-up the country for diaper's string-pullers and financiers.

congress isn't gonna stop or fix a fucking thing until the voters wake the fuck up and fill the capitol with a veto-proof opposition. a veto-proof majority is also conveniently enough for congress' role in amending the constitution, and for impeachments and convictions.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Congress never had control of tariffs.

[–] fan0m@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just because that’s how it’s always been doesn’t meet it should be immune from change.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Who should control tariffs?

The House is Republican

The Senate is Republican.

The Courts are Republican

The President is Republican.

It's a sweep from the top down. Good luck. Next time win some politics before complaining. For now we just gotta sit tight and take it.

Even if Biden and Co passed laws to change who controls tariffs, the Republican sweep would have given them those levers of power anyway.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

a large enough majority would have the ultimate in 'control'

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Well let's start building that majority who can actually show up and vote. And maybe next time don't weaken your own candidates.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And maybe next time don’t weaken your own candidates.

Maybe next time listen to someone to the left of Netanyahu.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No

Next time I remember that there is no one pure enough for you fuckers even when we are facing down Donald Trump.

Enjoy Trump deporting Free Palestine protesters dumbass.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

They had the audacity to say this:

I voted for your pro-genocide candidate

And then feel righteous in accusing others of “genocide support” for voting for Harris.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's the part about feeling righteous, full stop. Even if we are standing neck deep in the overflowing swamp created by donvict and his thugs, with millions of people being victimized, they can still feel superior because they reluctantly voted for "your candidate" that is "pro-genocide".

Sigh. Well, at least they voted.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Good point. It’s just…. Man. Their entitlement-infused ignorance is so gods-damned annoying.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Exactly this. How do they think they have a platform to speak from when they have done nothing at all to stop trump from destroying America?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What power do they actually have? Our stupid system over-represents a minority and so the Democrats have little power.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They had the same power the trump administration is currently abusing from early 2021 through early 2023.

They decided wielding it would be impolite.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So then why bother with a warning? I totally agree with what you’re saying, I just don’t get what the fuck they think they are doing….

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I totally get the frustration, believe me.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

So fucking frustrating.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you are a Canadian or Mexican please contact your representatives and have them do a more targeted tariff plan. Target American red states directly! Oil tariffs should be universal but anything made in red states and counties should have a 100% tariff. Force industry and goods to flow through blue areas and Trump's support will crumble.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

As an American stuck in a red state, I support this. However I'm also concerned this could have the unintended side effect of trump forcefully taking over blue states and moving industry there. Or else destroying industry in blue states to force countries to buy from red states.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

How? The US doesn't make anything the world wants or needs at a large enough scale to make moving industry within its boarders pointless. And even if they do move to a different state it's not like people suddenly turn red just because a factory opened up. With the standards of living being so much higher in blue states and a track record of positive change people won't give that up in exchange for being more like Mississippi.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Top Democrats, led by Chuck Schumer, are

Doing their best Captain Obvious impression....

While desperately hoping everyone forgets we had the same political capital four years and they did Jack shit to mitigate any damage a second trump presidency could do.

Moderates can't fight fascism, because they're going to say whatever is "in the middle" of basic human decency and fascism is the best path.

[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Gotta compromise you know, doesn't matter what the opposition wants, the correct path is somewhere between that and what everyone in the country wants. I am very smart and politically savvy.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Hey Democrats! Stop with the warnings and actually do something. Trump has made it clear that he doesn't fucking care. Giving him "warnings" is what led to this in the first place, you feckless dimwits.

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They can't do anything. Republicans have a majority.

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

They won't do anything, that's how their ratchet effect works. Let Republicans do whatever they want while they do nothing to counteract it, thereby locking those changes in place. Democrats are complicit in everything Republicans do and are useless.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

The qons love a regressive tax. At least the elitist ones do.

We'll see how much the average red hat likes it. But I'm sure they'll be distracted with lots of bullshit about immigrants, wokeness, DEI, etc...I suppose if the demons running the place break things hard enough, they might give the worst-hit, but most loyal, red hats an offer for a new job, with a nice uniform, to work for the government....

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Preach.

Choir.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Wait… there are still democrats?

[–] diskmaster23@lemmy.one 2 points 5 months ago

Like Democrats or Republicans give a shit about our pocket book. I have yet to see them do shit to help beyond minor things.
I will give credit for Illinois Democrats for passing a weeks PTO for everyone.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This is true, ofc, but I honestly do not give a fuck what Democrats say. lol