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The team doesn't even have to have won the championship, but has a team in NBA history overachieved notably due to coaching? How did the coaching impact the team's rotations, player roles, defensive schemes, etc?

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[–] shanmustafa@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

there was a lot of Brad Stevens slurping during 2018, and rightfully so, first year Tatum, second year Jaylen, and young Rozier as your three leading scorers, Horford and Morris as your vets, and you're like a bad 6 mins away from the finals? not bad

[–] Kyler1313@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even to have a 1 seeded team in 2016 with IT. There 2nd best offensive weapon was Avery Bradley.

[–] NardP12@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

IT, Bradley, Crowder, Amir and Al are all small for their positions but Brad managed it to work. Shame Brad and Spo doesn't have a COY award

[–] Haunting-Ad9521@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Spo still having no COY award is really nuts.

[–] gardenofoden@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Brad was robbed in 2018 given the injuries. For some reason voters seemed to have a grudge against him, giving the award to Duane Casey of all people

[–] Vegetable-Tooth8463@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

first year Tatum

Do you mean Baby Tatum?

[–] MajorSlimes@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlowVoids@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's such a bummer he isn't a coach anymore. I'm sure being a front office guy is way more chill, but he was so good.

[–] robzillerrrsss@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Other coaches started figuring him out AND stealing all of atos. I think he peaked. You can only be so original for so long before the league copies you. I see him as similar to dantoni and thibs in that way where the rest of the league uses their tactics and sets and your advantage goes away.

[–] lebroin@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] Basic_Commercial_806@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Eric Spoelstra every year hes the best floor raiser coach in nba

[–] gratitudeisbs@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean basically the best ceiling raiser too

[–] PaulMcPaulersn7@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

We prefer to just the say the best

[–] mopooooo@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

A coach's job isn't to carry players. It's to raise them up and put them in position to elevate the team.

[–] rpdm@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

don't know if it's a carry, but 3 times (Bulls and Lakers twice) Phil Jackson came into an organization with a top, or the top player ( who did ok before him) and got the them to the Finals and more

[–] rattatatouille@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Jerry Sloan with the Jazz in 2004. Projected to be the worst team in the league with Andrei Kirilenko leading a bunch of literally whos. Proceed to go 42-40 and just narrowly miss the playoffs.

[–] tragedy_of_97@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

probably forgotten because of still missing the playoffs. The West was stacked

[–] Greaves624@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Brad Stevens felt like he was coaching circles around everyone in the league in 2016/17. IT and Bradley were the smallest back court in the league, then Jae Crowder who's 6'5 at SF and they had Zeller starting lol

Finished 1st in the East somehow

[–] Vegetable-Tooth8463@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Why'd they get destroyed by Cleveland?

[–] Greaves624@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because IT was ignoring injuries all season long and by the Finals he couldn't even stand anymore. And LeBron.

[–] Vegetable-Tooth8463@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] gardenofoden@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Cavs had an improved version of a team that had upset a 73 win team to win a title the year prior and would've repeated if not for the Warriors assembling the best roster of all time...

[–] Vegetable-Tooth8463@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But why weren't the Cavs the 1 seed then?

[–] c0wpig@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

why weren't the 1 seed

Those Lebron Cavs teams were notorious for slacking off in the regular season

[–] Vegetable-Tooth8463@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] collect_my_corpse@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Thibs 2010-2011 - that team took on his personality. They thrived on defense. It was an amazing season. Rose was something else back then.

[–] loplopplop@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Doc Rivers Magic in like....2000 before they got McGrady. That team overachieved like it was there job.

[–] ElGrandeQues0@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Doc is fantastic when there's no pressure

[–] imcryptic@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Rick Carlisle led the 2014 Mavericks to 7 games against the eventual champion Spurs in the first round. A team that went on to beat the Heatles 4-1.

With a starting lineup that included 35 year old Shawn Marion a year away from retirement, Jose Calderon and Samuel Dalembert. Oh and 37 year old Vince Carter was our 6th man. That was a coaching masterclass between Rick and Pop.

Honestly every team that Dallas made the playoffs with post 2011 was a miracle strike by Rick. Those teams were dogshit.

[–] MichiganKarter@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Bill Russell, 1969 Celtics.

The entire team was completely worn out. Over the previous decade they'd played an additional season and a half relative to a bad team in playoff games alone. Lousy shoes, rattly floors, useless surgery, bad food - a 35 year old basketball player in 1969 pictured next to a 35 year old basketball player today looks like a father and son photo.

The coach also had to be the starting center. Surely they were just tanking for a high draft pick? That didn't work in the regular season, as they made the playoffs.

And then they stranded ten thousand balloons in the rafters in Game 7 of the finals.

[–] Markel100@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Kerr in 2022 he coached a team to the finals and won with his core 3 messing big chunks of the season klay missed the first month. dray missed a couple of weeks. Than curry missed the last month

[–] a_pot_of_chili_verde@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Mark D with the CP3/SGA Thunder. It was supposed to be the start of our rebuild but we were so good that it postponed it a year.

Coach did a hell of a job.

[–] Southern_Walk679@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Mike Brown just unlocked the Kangz into playoff contending Kings.

[–] Suspicious-Summer-79@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Pop and the whole Spurs dynasty. Developing Manu, Tony and Tim into players they were, keeping them with the Spurs their entire careers, and managing to convince them to buy into the system he created is the greatest success of any coach in the last two decades.

[–] RVAIsTheGreatest@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Jazz 2004 yes....Jazz 2006 as well. Boozer and Giricek missed most of the season and the Jazz roster was the same as their 26-56 season the year prior only with rookie Deron and other rookies. One of the youngest teams in the association and they won 41 games. 15 game difference missing two starters.

[–] likpoper@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Eric Spo for the last 3 years