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Summary

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez warned that the Trump is deliberately overwhelming the public with chaotic news to induce passivity.

Citing Steve Bannon’s "flood the zone" strategy and historian Michiko Kakutani’s comparison of Trump to Mussolini and Hitler, she argued that Trump uses the internet to spread disinformation, much like past dictators used film and radio.

Urging people to stay engaged, she emphasized that collective resistance can slow harmful policies and that small acts of opposition make a difference.

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

Donald Trump divides, Luigi Mangione unites, even in such tense times. Not because of violence, because of class war stuff.

Donald Trump, somehow, is the ultimate distraction from the class war. Every time he does something awful, he's reminding you about the class war he's trying to distract you from.

[–] Flumpkin@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 hour ago

Yeah. But I've felt burned out by the news for a while already. So this is nothing!

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 20 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

So my trick is to only care when people actually do something instead of dead catting.

Threatens Canada? That’s not a thing, let me know when they put a bill.

Praises Bibi? We all know how they feel, not news, let me know when more funding has been approved.

Threatens tariffs? Okay let me know when they start taking effect, cause last time it was a bluff.

Kind of same thing here, AOC (whom I’m a big fan of) isn’t proposing a bill or asking for people to show up on a certain date to protest, not really news.

It works cause news organizations’ whole purpose is to report news, actual events, but they haven’t been doing their job cause they are chasing clicks.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I've filtered out Elon and Trump from my news feed and it's a lot less stressful. I'm no longer jumping at every bloviation

[–] sumguyonline@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago

There's a place past burnt out... Waaaay past becoming the homeless vagrant that shouts "answer your telephone!" at migrating birds... Past hearing rushing water in your ears that is actually your blood pressure as you have a full blown meltdown because despite over a decade of hard work in a field you still struggled to make rent, car payment, insurance, and food, let alone a social life... There's a place past the fight or flight of an extreme anxiety attack... It's peaceful, bland, and frankly just existing in it fills you with an unspeakable rage. I live there, I have 1 thing, and 1 thing only to lose. My dogs. Anyone dares lay a finger on them and all hell breaks loose. I refuse to stay here. I'm making a cells for all those I will drag here by their short pube hairs. Burnt out is just a stage, if you want to keep living, it gets worse from here.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Here is an interview with PBS Frontline where Bannon describes the strategy of overwhelming the media: (at 1:26:19) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm5xxlajTW0&t=5179s

[–] pingveno@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm usually pretty good at being able to follow multiple threads of events at once, and even I'm getting overwhelmed. I've had to step away from the news somewhat, simply because I know there's only so much I can do at this point. Trump, Elon, and their minions are going on their romp around the federal government and the best anyone else can do is throw a few lawsuits at them.

[–] DarthKaren@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago

This is where I'm at. I'm already burnt out, and this shitberg we're sliding down has just started.

I'm doing what I can control. Making sure I'm armed (I fucking hate how nuts that makes me sound), trying to set some money aside and making sure I have my garden up and running so I can grow at least some of our own food.

I've got a wife and kids. I can't work due to what military service did to my body. So I can't see myself being able to leave the country if it comes to it. I'm not sure I'd want to leave it in control of these madmen anyway. My hope at this point is that we can just get to mid terms and have a legit election there. It'll be a shit show. There will be violence at polling places and ballot drop areas. There will be screaming of rigged election if the right loses (and I see that happening in a legit election due to their fuckery).

This has been the longest couple weeks ever. Longer than waiting on summer vacation out of school. Longer than the first day back to work after a month vacation.

I'm gonna go paint some minis and play some ark now. This was my 1 foray into social media for the day.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

Urging people to stay enraged

ftfy

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 12 points 18 hours ago

Yeah, we had a class of independent professionals that delivered verified news directly from sauce to the pleb, all on a fixed wage as not to have financial stimulation that would affect the quality or contents is said reporting.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 122 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

You know why I'm burnt out? Because I don't see hardly any Democrats pushing the fuck back.

I see a bunch of Democrat voting for Republican bills knowing they're fucking horrible. I see and hear a bunch of Democrats voting for his unqualified nominees and then taking about bipartisanship. I see Fetterman slobbing all over Trump's toadstool supporting ethnic cleansing all fucking day long with not a single move to kick his stroked ass out. I don't see Democrats doing fuck all.

I can handle bad news, I can't stand the spinless, enabling Democrats.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago

Honestly, you can't go by news reporting alone if you want to actually see what democrats are doing, you need to actually look at they do to be transparent from their own sources, the news is avoiding covering anything negative about Trump to an absurd degree.

[–] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 12 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

I burnt out long ago when I saw Democrats being full rightwing and most Americans being "enlightened centrists" doing shit. For me the tipping point was the Supreme Court stealing the election from Al Gore.

But I think what was most frustrating of all was the years of being called am extremist by most when pointing out the Democrats weren't stopping fascism and later that Trump would be the end of democracy during his first term. I remember so many fucking people saying that taking out Trump by any means possible was "extreme", only to see some of those same people now wish for the exact same damn thing when it's much more difficult to do so.

I'm glad I left that country years ago. Ultimately the reason there's a lack of unions, justice, and more there is because it's a country full of broken people, ruled by broken people.

Many immigrants thought it was great simply because they weren't being actively hunted to be killed or no longer dealt with unaffordable food (like my parents). They came from even worse countries at the time and when the USA wasn't that bad, so they keep quiet and just try to live on, and just accept injustice because it's all they've ever known. And the natively born there either are deluged with propaganda so they never pull the wool out of their eyes and never taught to think critically or are systematically broken down into poverty, injustice, and violence so they lose hope.

I don't think Americans will do what's right, even when only one path is now left open. But maybe I'm wrong, and like the old quote they'll do the right thing at the last moment when they realize they have no more choices.

Either way, it doesn't directly affect me anymore. I tried fighting back, but a small group can't fix a broken people. Maybe completely shattering them is what's needed instead.

In the meantime, I'll keep helping those seeking help where I can, especially the 🟦🌸⬜🌸🟦 seeking to leave to safety.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Glad you made it out. I did try to get out during Trumps first term but didn't happen.

[–] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 hours ago

Yep, it's pretty difficult.

If you have spare money tho, and like the cold, anyone is free to move to Svalbard, which Norway owns. They have internet. It's easier to get housing tho if you start a business which, to be fair, there's technically very little competition there.

Otherwise honestly at this point there's some decent South America countries you can go to, and aren't run by neo Nazis like the states are now.

If you know Spanish. If you know French, you can probably get to France more easily through South American France (/j)

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Feel seen, friend, I've felt the same since Gore v Bush was given to the republicans by the Democrats and SCOTUS.

But maybe I’m wrong, and like the old quote they’ll do the right thing at the last moment when they realize they have no more choices.

You mean like the German people did?

[–] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 hours ago

More like hopefully I'm wrong. I don't think I am, but I hope to be.

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

AOC talked about exactly this in her video (it's over an hour long, but when you have time, I'd say it's worth a watch). There was a specific effort to start this madness after Congress adjourned for the week, and there's been a scramble to get back for continued pushback.

And, even for democrats we presume to fight for these issues, there is complacency where people only whine on social media without making themselves known directly to their representatives. That's important both for people in Democrat, and Republican districts, to make it known their constituents are not blind to these problems.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, contacting your rep is always a great idea but come on, do you really think that it needs to take massive amounts of contact in order for Democrats to realize "don't vote for any Republican neo Nazi cabinet an member" is the right move?

Come on man, do you really think we have to tell them this? This is something that's just so blatantly obvious, such a low bar, one has to wonder how crappy are Democrats and their leadership.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

Yeah actually I think you do. Make it clear that under no uncertain terms that your democratic senator should immediately begin doing everything they can do to grind the capital to a halt that you and other like you will be relentless in ensuring that they're not re-elected.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The short answer is: Yes.

The long answer is: YEEEEESSSS.

Politicians come in varying types, and most want to hold what power they have. It’s all they have - they’re literally at risk of being fired every few years. Many of them know what the right thing is to do, but worry that more domestic issues are their voter’s real concern. So, if they confirm a whack job in Congress while taking a back room deal to boost employment numbers in their state, they’ll do it - perhaps reluctantly.

But that CHANGES if their office is flooded with calls, or even just signed emails. It is a BIG oh shit moment: “Wait, people actually care about what’s happening in Washington as opposed to here??” The biggest problem reps have had, as repeatedly echoed in interviews, is they don’t know which issues are most significant to their voters. The result may be a matter of trading favors to be given table scraps, etc.

It is OUR problem too - we thought it was a common sense, braindead position not to vote for a diaper grandpa that spends 90% of its time drooling over Fox News, but the active voting population disagreed! So don’t think it is a hard mistake to make!

Every time people with experience judge these issues, they have recommended the same thing. Even if you live in a red state that won by 30 points, even if you live in a blue state that won by 20.

I encourage you to watch the movie Darkest Hour. London Parliament did NOT think it would be an obvious decision to oppose Hitler, AT ALL. They insisted Britain would chew them up for pushing them into a “pointless” war against a legitimate machine of progress and industry. It finally took Churchill going nutso and taking a subway ride in public to get a chance to actually see how people felt.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I just saw someone on Lemmy say the other day something along the lines of "he's only been in there a month"

Hell, at that point it was barely 2 WEEKS.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn't say I'm burnt out but sure as shit I'm struggling to keep up.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 7 points 13 hours ago

but sure as shit I’m struggling to keep up

You don't have to keep up with all of it. That's a sure road to being overwhelmed. Follow the topics most important to you from multiple sources in hopes of getting the largest view as possible.

Spend time on new sites not based in the US, it helps to know the rest of the world sees what is going on for what it is.

Make sure to keep at your hobbies and interests that aren't politically related so you get some downtime and recuperation.

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[–] superkret@feddit.org 159 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Great, now I'm burnt out and feeling guilty about it.

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 121 points 1 day ago (2 children)

“Do what you can. And what you can do is enough,” she said. …Ocasio-Cortez reminded her followers several times that no deed of resistance is too small.

Honestly, continuing to exist/taking a moment to be nice to yourself in an administration that hates you counts. Keep existing.

A lot of these click-baity titles and over-simplified summaries seem to be adding to this very problem of guilting people for being overwhelmed.

Unfortunately that’s the system but please don’t feel guilty for being human. Kindness and compassion is resistance, and starting with yourself is a valid step.

Fuck the forces who are selling a solution to a problem they created but are trying to say is your fault. /endrant

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