It’s possible your coworkers are playing the social game to advance their careers. That doesn’t mean you have to.
this post was submitted on 01 Mar 2025
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Get a standalone voice dictation device list this $20 one:
- Walk in at 12:30 and set this while recording in front of the co-worker that starts their report at 12:30.
- Walk away and get changed into scrubs.
- Be ready for your shift at 12:35
- Sit down and press "play" and listen to the report
Everyone wins!
Who cares what others do if they want to waste their time go ahead, just follow your contract, if it states start at 1230,shift begins at 1235 then show up at 1230 and begin at 1235.Anything they decide to do prior to you is not your problem.
Just get what info you need after the fact. It's bonus because you also now can waste X Amount of time trying to recap what you missed since you wern't present/working at that time.
This is the most obvious answer but given OP's strong feelings on the matter, they presumably already thought this would be the best course of action and would already be doing it were it so easy. They didn't say it directly but I think the problem they're having is that their colleagues are not only themselves choosing to waste their time in this manner but because they are, they are expecting it of OP and it sounds like they're having some kind of conflict about it that they've brought up with OP directly. I'm guessing some of them have complained to OP or indicated to them that they're "supposed" to be ready by 12.30 even though they're wrong.
This makes it difficult because in that scenario OP can't simply plough on doing their job to the letter of the contract and just ignore the others, they have to choose to actively fight it out with them or just relent and start arriving early. It sounds like what they're having the dilemma about is if it sounds reasonable to have that fight, given that although it feels important to OP, they recognise that it's more about the principle of the matter than the objective scale of the problem. Seems like they recognise that 5 minutes of their time wouldn't be that big a deal as their colleagues have concluded, making it seem petty or disruptive to have that fight and all the awkwardness that will ensue just for those 5 minutes, but the principle that they should have to give up any extra time at all, regardless how long, just because their workmates are doing it is troubling OP.
Depending on how whiny and motivated his colleagues are it might be advisable to pick their battles and let this go, but if they think they're in a position to stand their ground and not have to suffer too many consequences and loss of standing with their workmates then of course they should, and even encourage others to do the same. I don't think we have enough of an idea what their workplace is like to know which one of those situations they're in.
if I question why I get yelled at.
Yelling is bad behaviour. This person's bad behaviour, not your's.
One idea:
Tell them in your calmest voice (!) that the one who yells is wrong. Always. Didn't they know that? Because, if he were right, he would not need to yell.
This isn't the most solid logic, but then it's better to argue about the yelling and not about your 5 minutes.
About that family thing. If anyone ever tells you that “we are family” it means you can call them for help when you’re moving. If you have trouble configuring your router, call your new family for help. If you need to drill a hole in a concrete wall, but you do don’t have the right drill bits or other tools, call your new family.
If your boss doesn’t want to come over to drill some holes in a concrete wall on a Saturday afternoon, they’re not really family, and they can’t expect you to act like family either.
You have a very different family than me.
If work was like MY family, we’d all work in different countries and I’d visit my manager once or twice a year and get the jobs done that we couldn’t sort out over the phone or email. I’d find out about all the stuff they’d been letting slide and sort out as much as I could over a weekend. When I got home people would ask me if I had a good holiday.
Wait. That IS how my workplace operates!
Yeah, this is just socially enforced time theft. If your coworkers bitch to you, it's not your problem. It sucks that your union doesn't have your back on this.
If you’re not getting paid for it, don’t do it. You’re not a volunteer. You’re an employee.
Are you salaried or hourly? if you're all hourly, the person showing up early, clock in as the first thing you do. You're entitled to being paid for the time that you work. (and that might be why the person showing up 30 minutes early is showing up 30 minutes early. that's 2.5 hours of overtime right there, every week.)
If you're salaried, then start when the shift starts. They're not entitled to anything more just because they want to knock off five minutes early.
In any case, the person showing up 30 minutes early in this case may be slow getting into scrubs, etc, may want to stop and chat people up on the way in, or just take a moment to adjust their thoughts. Alternatively, they take the bus.
That extra 5 minutes is ~20hours and hundreds of dollars of unpaid labor a year. It seems to me that the coworkers are being very irresponsible in exposing their company to a potential lawsuit over something so minor. That doesn't sound like being a team player to me.