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[–] KillerTofu@lemmy.world 86 points 1 month ago (19 children)
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[–] eRac@lemmings.world 78 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It's a good time to note that this is the vaccine the autism bullshit stems from. If he was genuine in his views, this is the one vaccine it would make sense for him to oppose.

[–] qantravon@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Let's assume for a second that the claims about the MMR vaccine had merit. It was specifically claimed that the cause was the addition of thimerosal as a preservative agent. Despite there being no evidence supporting this assertion, thimerosal was removed from nearly all vaccines decades ago. Which means that, if he was genuine in his beliefs, he shouldn't have a problem with any of them anymore.

EDIT It appears the thimerosal claim wasn't actually linked to MMR, as that vaccine never had it to begin with. My bad.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 month ago

if he was genuine in his beliefs

I found the problem.

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The MMR vaccine never contained thimerosal. There were two separate claims by antivaxxers. The first was Wakefield's money making scheme to invent an alternative MMR vaccine by claiming the existing MMR vaccine caused autism.

The second, entirely separate, claim was that thimerosal in other vaccines was also causing autism.

The two claims then got conflated into a general 'vaccines == bad' by idiots like Kennedy, Jim Carrey, Jenny McCarthy and a whole quack industry of autism 'cures' such as chelation, HBOT etc.

[–] qantravon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Ah, looks like you're correct, I guess I got the claims conflated myself.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Denialists are absolutely famous for moving the goalposts, though. That's how they remain denialists.

Famous example is the evolution denialists always going on about a "missing link". The minute some new transitional fossil is found then creates TWO MORE "missing links".

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 month ago

The man has no moral center.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

The bullshit stemmed from an investor of competing vaccines to the combined MMR. They were selling separate vaccines which were less popular so they wanted to take down the combined MMR to make money.

It's all been collateral damage of unrepentant greed.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean sure, but would you prefer he stick to his views as children die, or do you want him to change his views and try to get MAGA crazies in TX to give their kids the measles vaccine?

I don't typically point out that my opponent is a hypocrite if they're doing the right thing for the right reasons.

[–] eRac@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

He's changing his tune on one vaccine. He's still sabotaging everything else, including the flu shot for next year.

[–] meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A decade of anti-vaccine rhetoric comes full circle—tragically, at the expense of children's lives.

😺😺😺

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 month ago

The "mainstream" antivax shit has been almost 2 decades at this point. Jenny McCarthy published her shit book and talked about it on Oprah in 2007.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

This shit was effectively eliminated in 2000, but thanks to assholes like Bobby Brainworms, all that work of science was undone by a whole lotta anti-intellectual dipshits.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I guess he's seeing the inside info now? What a fucking tool. He should go to Texas to show his support. Maybe kiss a few babies for good measure.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

100% chance HE is vaccinated completely while pushing this shit

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

They always are. Even Mother Teresa, an ardent outspoken supporter of letting the poor and ill suffer to be closer to God sought the best Western medicine when she fell ill.

Bunch of frauds.

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago

what a hero

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

is this our timeline's version of "there are no atheists in foxholes"?

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

No, because that saying is false.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

why not just call him anti-vaxxer cbs.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Same reason they talk about Elon Musk and Steve Bannon's strange and mysterious extension of the right arm palm down at a 45 degree angle.

[–] MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If RFK Jr. fails to control this, he will make Texas bluer and Trump will punish him for this serious mistake.

[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago

I don't think it'll turn blue, but they could lose a lot of voters to another virus

That's fine. The Democrat plan is to normalize fascism. 1000000235

"Both sides are the same" is ultimately true because both empower capitalism's subjugation of democracy. Every time the GOP tugs right and the DNC meets them half way. The greatest accomplishment of the Democrats in the last 20 years is the ACA- designed by the heritage foundation but stripped of the greatest cost savings measures.

https://politicalcompass.org/uselection2016

https://electiontruthalliance.org/clark-county%2C-nv

https://substack.com/home/post/p-153003086

https://www.brut.media/us/videos/us/politics/gop-strategists-daughter-leaks-secret-files

https://www.the74million.org/article/across-all-ages-demographics-test-results-show-americans-are-getting-dumber/

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy/

https://eji.org/news/nixon-war-on-drugs-designed-to-criminalize-black-people/

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Wow. Actually doing something after a kid's death. That's a new one.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Could it be that he’s just stupid on paper?

Naaah, he’s an idiot in all mediums.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Excellent news.

More. More!

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

“I prayed on it and God told me to say something that goes against everything I’ve stated I believe in. So, yeah.”

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nothing for Texas they don’t deserve it.

[–] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not everyone in Texas is a fucking loon. They're just being ruled by loons like the rest of us.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 3 points 1 month ago

There's something about Texas specifically that make people hate them even more around here.