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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 15 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

So weird. SpaceX's competition? Getting attacked by little d and fElon?

Who could have imagined?

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It's not really competition anymore though, since they often use SpaceX rockets for what they do now.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

They were never competition, exactly. NASA doesn't make spacecraft, they buy and sometimes modify them from industrial concerns and always have.

What they did do was be a federal space agency, with all that implies otherwise, which means a private company can't charge premium rates to do the things that absolutely have to happen that they were doing.

This is the privatization and militarization (through the inevitability of Space Force absorbing some responsibility) of space.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 20 points 10 hours ago

A Republican voter told me Trump would be thrown out of office if America loses the space race to China. Whenever I need a half-correct monkey paw fortuneteller, I guess I know where to find one.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

The US is gonna be so humiliated when China lands people on the moon and we have no infrastructure or tech in place to answer their move.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

We'll be sending the first live person to Venus and it will be our greatest hero, Elon Trump! We will show China what can be done when there's a will.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 13 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I fully support Musk and Trump landing on the surface of venus

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It could be a surprise! We tell them they're just going for a quick moon landing but then a little Boeing later...uhhh ahhh! They become the first two people to land on Venus. Probably less uhh and more ahhhhh!

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly, I'd volunteer to be the first person to land on Venus. I know it's a straight up death sentence, but what a cool way to go.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Okay so 3 people! Excellent! We must make arrangements right away! Valla von dios!

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 4 hours ago

We know it's safe, because the greenhouse effect is a liberal lie.

[–] __nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 hours ago

The US is already humiliated

[–] reiterationstation@lemm.ee 9 points 11 hours ago

We currently have no one meeting this head on with real leadership. Anyone with political capital to travel and speak with world leaders (as trump did when he wasn’t president) could be helping save this YET.

[–] MyMotherIsAHamster@lemmy.ca 117 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

America is so deeply fucked, and 70-something million of them are too brainwashed to know it yet.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 36 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Another eighty million are too lazy to care.

And the remainder of us who are somewhat higher on the spectrum of both sanity and giving a fuck about humans and the world are losing our fucking minds at a distressing pace

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 64 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

So, is SpaceX just going to do all the infrastructure? Because this is just royally dumb.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 62 points 15 hours ago

Yup, and they'll do it half as well for three times the cost.

Efficiency!

[–] 50MYT@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Rocket lab will be putting hands up and competing for some of the contracts

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 46 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

This deeply pisses me off. You have no idea how excited I am to go back to the moon and if that goes down the drain imma lose it.

They are absolutely gonna kill the Artemis project. They already killed the launch vehicle (though, to be fair, SLS was an absolute albatross).

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 32 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I'm super worried about JWST... It's been absolutely amazing so far, and that fucker might just fucking axe it.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

JWST is fine. It's not going anywhere, and unless it is purposefully destroyed it will keep sending us data.

The NASA Deep Space Network collects it and distributes it, but Europe could just as easily set up their own interface to receive the data. DSN was already in place, so it made sense to keep using it.

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 15 points 12 hours ago

2 out of the 3 DSN locations aren't even in the US or managed by NASA.

  • NASA manages the Goldstone complex in California
  • The Madrid complex is in Spain and managed by their national space agency
  • The Canberra complex is in Australia and managed by their national space agency

Also, fun fact, the Canberra complex has the only antenna that can communicate with Voyager 2!

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

I mean, it’s already up there and there’s no docking port for future service missions.

A lot of countries contributed to JWST, if the US drops it, someone else will pay people to keep it in orbit.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 16 points 14 hours ago

Trump's? Or Musk's?

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 25 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

From the article ...

NASA announced on Monday that it will be closing the Office of Technology, Policy, and Strategy; the Office of the Chief Scientist; and the Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Accessibility (DEIA) Branch of the Office of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. Twenty-three employees will be affected by the cuts,

[–] moncharleskey@lemmy.zip 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The title only claims that the process has started.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The title only claims that the process has started.

The article says "will be" (future tense), and not "has been so far". 🤷‍♂️

There may be more to come (knowing Elon/Trump), but I can only quote the article, ethically.

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[–] moncharleskey@lemmy.zip 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You seemed to imply with your bolded quote that this was inconsequential, so I only mean to point out that according to the title of the article that the attacks on NASA have started in a concrete way, not merely speculative anymore.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

You seemed to imply with your bolded quote that this was inconsequential,

No, was just highlighting the quantity of employees. People usually like to know how many are involved.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh! Oh! Can Canada get its aerospace engineers and industry back? We've been missing them ever since the Avro Arrow project got cancelled by American pressure and they all ended up in NASA.

[–] Moose@moose.best 2 points 13 hours ago

I would fucking love that. I find it unlikely but I really want to work in space manufacturing without moving to the USA. I know there are a handful of companies here, but not enough.

[–] ApeNo1@lemm.ee 12 points 15 hours ago

“It’s one small step backwards for man, it’s”, scans notes looking for last section of speech. Shrugs. “I think that’s it folks. One small step backwards it is.”

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago

The race to the bottom!

[–] mimavox@lemm.ee 6 points 14 hours ago

Wait, weren't they going to take humanity into space?

[–] anindefinitearticle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Science Mission Directorate cut by 50%?

It's not the people building the rockets getting cut the most.

It's the people studying the planets and responsible for understanding and protecting their state before human development s'encubre.

[–] seeking_perhaps@mander.xyz 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yes and it covers way more missions than most people would think, like the Mars rovers, all of our sample return efforts, etc. It would all but kill US planetary science.

Changing our space program from that of scientific exploration and understanding our neighbors to one of colonization and conquest.