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The Michigan Court of Appeals, in an 18-page opinion, declined to interfere with a 1931 law that carries a five-year prison term for simply having brass knuckles, also known as metallic knuckles.

A “ban on the possession of metallic knuckles falls within the historical tradition of prohibiting the concealed carry of metallic knuckles as a dangerous and unusual weapon,” Judge Christopher Murray wrote in a 3-0 opinion Tuesday.

Brass knuckles are usually a single set of rings that fits on someone’s hand. A punch can inflict serious injuries.

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[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 236 points 2 days ago (9 children)

America is weird af. Ban brass knuckles but allow semi-automatic weapons that kill thousands every year.

Weird. As. Fuck.

[–] josefo@leminal.space 7 points 16 hours ago

Obviously the answer to the paradox is to have semi-automatic brass knuckles invented.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This is an honest reply. It really depends on the situation. Feral hog sounders are a very scary thing, and fairly common in areas that commonly vote against their own economic interests. That bit in the Hannibal the cannibal movie, about the pigs, holds its share of truth. But in a city things that are necessary outside of one should be appropriately regulated.

That meme about European woodland being pleasant and the American woodland being a hellscape, is not very far from the truth.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Why can't I fight the feral hogs with my brass knuckles?

[–] L3G1T1SM3@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago

Because they have 4 hands and you only have 2 so you're outgunned already, imagine if they took your brass knuckles

[–] okuyasu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Another honest reply from a european, is commonly known in italy that if you want to have troubles you can always go to the country side and do a stroll among the fields and in the woodlands where based on the area you can meet friendly beasts like hogs, bears, wolves and drug dealers hiding on trees and holes in the ground making animal noises or whistling and you can find wandering drug addicts, if you cross path with one that is high enough you have a machete fight at your hand if you are lucky enough to not find the one with the handgun and if you start smelling weed an nobody is around it means you are near a cannabis plantation you can try to get some in the spirit of the adventure but be careful the local mob could think you are snitch and zero you before you can even grab a flower, so come over and bring your sword this fairy tail is awaiting you.

But on a more serious note since i roamed for real these places at night i ensure you that the woodlands are scary as it can get both if you find an animal or a person, the woodlands are the perfect place to hide for animals and shady people all over the world, this is not fantasyland and memes are just jokes.

Here an example articles about hogs destroing cocaine stashes in the woods

https://www.newsweek.com/italy-drug-bust-wild-boar-hidden-cocaine-destroyed-smuggling-operation-1471472

Plus two other on topic

https://www.ansa.it/english/news/2016/11/15/police-clear-milan-drug-dealing-wood-in-huge-op_e86a036a-c453-4672-ac44-e678136e7311.html

https://www.ansa.it/english/news/2021/09/30/priest-caught-buying-cocaine-in-tuscan-wood_4a5e3a2a-9847-4eea-af20-a373ea8020df.html

[–] wieson@feddit.org 5 points 23 hours ago

I want to answer honestly as well. I looked up the numbers, and we have 2 million wild boars in Germany. Germany has roughly the size of Montana.

High estimates say, there are 9 Mio in the US, 3 Mio in Texas (twice as large as Germany). So the numbers are rooouuughly comparable, a little more swine here in DE.

I guess, the feral hogs are really back to being wild nowadays despite stemming from domesticated pigs. So I will classify them as scary as a wild boar. Which they are, they are scary.

How do we manage this? Each year about 600 000 boars are shot by professional hunters. The general population doesn't need weapons for that. And the hunting rifles are bolt action or single action, not automatics.

The main damage they cause is not to live and limb, but to property, namely crop fields. Our solution is, that each hunter is assigned a district and a number he must shoot. If the farmland in his area is damaged more than x% that is also his responsibility.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world -1 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah Europe forgets it killed it's scary megafauna. America has grizzlies and wolves and the boars are invasive with no natural predators

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

Coyotes and Skunks are more a nuisance than Grizzles and Wolves where I live. Wish there was something we could feed the skunks so they didn't stink up large areas. Then again they'd probably be killed by Coyotes if they didn't stink so bad.

[–] Yokozuna@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Yep, they sell them as belt buckles. I got one at a gun show because it was cheap, figured why not. I eventually looked up the legality and I would be better off legally if I carried a pistol. Actually crazy lol.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 51 points 2 days ago (3 children)

People will still sell them labeled as key-chains or paperweights.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

They have been doing this for years. They add a little bump and sell it as a belt buckle, or add a little notch and sell it as a bottle opener. Most insane is it is fine to put a knife blade on it and sell it as a knife.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

This guy capitals.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 days ago

I've got an antique real pair that belonged to my grandpa. They don't make em like this anymore.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You do realize america is almost entirely built on weapons manufacturing right?

[–] M137@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Which doesn't make it less weird and fucked up, at all.

[–] lumony@lemmings.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I just did some looking into this.

Apparently defense contractors get paid twice.

  1. They get paid by taxpayers when they get the contract.
  2. They get paid by foreign nations when the equipment is sold.

It's so fucked beyond belief, I hope this generation can do something about it.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Theres a long long history of people using crises for personal gain, but I do share your hope that we can break the wheel to a degree.

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Reggie Kray on the other side of the sea about self defense:

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago (4 children)

In most states you need a license to carry a gun with you though.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I found this humdinger that may or may not be accurate

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Open carry prohibited, concealed carry without a permit" is Chaotic Evil energy.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago

Chaotic Evil encapsulates Florida quite nicely.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

in Pennsylvania you need a license to carry to transport a gun at all. whoever made this map doesn't know what they're talking about.

[–] Arcka@midwest.social 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Giffords group lies or misleads about guns?

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 15 hours ago

call a county sheriff in Pa and ask them if this map accurately represents the license to carry laws. maybe not Philadelphia, but any other county sheriff will tell you that they want you to tell them if you've got a pistol, whether you intend to conceal it or not

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago

Not anymore. Most states now have constitutional/permitless carry. Doesn't apply if you're a felon, have a history of drug abuse etc etc (varies by state).

[–] freely1333@reddthat.com 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I thought it was to conceal carry? My state I don’t think you need a license for any type of carry though. Which seems pretty legit now, considering. I feel like open carrying is way more sketchy than concealed.

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

I was walking along the shore in North Myrtle Beach and some jackass had colt .45 in a cowboy holster around his waist. He was walking with another chubby dude who was pretty obviously his friend. Never before have I seen such a fuckin chode

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

In 21/50 you need a license.

[–] danhab99@programming.dev -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Afaik it's because there's absolutely no other applications for brass knuckles to work. You can only assault people with brass knuckles.

Fire-arms can be used for "defence" and "hunting".

Edit: inb4 I don't agree with laws around brass knuckles, or most laws about most weapons.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My dude, you never been hunting until you punch the lights out of a deer.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Someone please finally make the Rocky/Bambi crossover we've all been waiting for

[–] mira13@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A brass knuckle can also be used for defence.

If you CAN use a firearm for defence, you're not properly storing your firearm...

You don't need large magazines or semi-automatic weapons for hunting...

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

All the mouth breather Americans are down voting you for simply speaking the truth

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you CAN use a firearm for defence, you're not properly storing your firearm...

Can you explain what you mean by this?

[–] Beastlygr@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think what they are trying to say that if you can quickly grab your loaded firearm and be ready for defense, then you are not storing your firearms correctly. Firearms should be locked up and ammo kept separate.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago

That's insane. Sure when it's being STORED it won't be accessible quickly. But when it's being carried, that's just absurd.

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's tryna be a macho man who lives life on the edge and drives a Hummer. Give their kind a down vote and scroll on friend :)

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If someone attacks you first, and you slip on the brass knuckles before defending yourself, then surely that would be a defensive use?

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah this is that kind of rules-lawyering grey area that everybody's too busy to deal with. It's the same issue with the assault rifles and large mags.. they're very clearly weapons of war but they look like guns and all* guns can be used for hunting.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's bullshit and you know it

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

Yes... Gun laws in the US are bullshit.