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“Even if this motion is successful, it doesn’t mean that Luigi Mangione walks out of prison,” said Ron Kuby, a criminal defense attorney whose practice focuses on civil rights. “All it means is that the items that were seized from him, or seized that belong to him, can’t be used as evidence against him.”

Kuby thinks that Mangione’s team has made enough claims in their papers to merit a hearing on the issues, in which the police officer involved would have to testify, confirming or denying the facts. “It does appear that they stopped and frisked Mangione without a legal basis to do it. If that’s true, everything that follows from there is likely to be found to be unconstitutional,” he said.

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[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Reddit tries to suppress all discussions related to Luigi, but remember, we have a dedicated community for him: !luigimangione@lemmy.world

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Luigi was a wakeup call as to just how heavily information can be censored when it affects the powers at be. I really don't know what to believe anymore. It feels like there's no objective reality.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago

Guy is going to jail, the grave, or both. Guilty or not the state is not letting a little thing like police evidence tampering or innocence get in the way of him paying for the consequences being brought home to that CEO. Truth was publicly spoken to power, and someone has to pay for that in the states eyes.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 84 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Luigi is an innocent patsy. The cops planted the evidence on the first convenient person they found.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

The cops planted the evidence on the first convenient person they found.

Hardly call his arrest a convenience. They had to chase him halfway across Pennsylvania.

I'm open to the possibility he was set up. But only in the Lee Harvey Oswald sense (someone mired in radicalism who was tangentially involved). You're going to have to produce a "second gunman" before I toss the abundance of evidence against him as a fabrication.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I'm not particularly remarkable in my looks, and I have so many doppelgangers that people are CONSTANTLY walking up to me claiming that my name is literally anything other than what my name is. I don't believe this is at all a unique feature of my particular genetics, I just happen to have a face that is known as a "familiar face," within both the art and acting sphere, as well as the psychological and sociological spheres of influence.

I'm saying that this concept absolutely applies to Luigi Mangione. He just looks too distinct, and quite frankly too chiseled to match the fuzzy photos of the actual killer. This being an extremely high profile case, in which the investigators involved felt pressure to wrap the case up as quickly as possible most likely led to them grabbing the wrong person, and planting evidence that the real killer abandoned on Luigi.

Pennsylvania isn't particularly big, and it's literally next door to NYC. You can either go directly from PA to NY and drive into the city from the north, or go through New Jersey. It takes longer to go north, but I think it is a better drive, TBH.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

remember that TIP, they baited the people to ID him.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They baited people to find anyone that might look like the shooter.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That's kind of how locating a suspect works... How else do you locate someone from a description when they have fled and are hiding in the general population?

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Don't rush. Don't plaster the news with him after 72 hours. Let him think he got away and allow him to make another mistake.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

So "don't look for the suspect"? That seems like, super effective.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Stop snitching. Yeah, don't look for the suspect outside of law enforcement private channels. Involving the public almost always ends in a "we did it Reddit" moment, which when the dust settles, and we find out the truth, did we realize that the mob picked a convenient target, and we effectively killed a person for no reason.

Law enforcement will find the perpetrator in the long run about 50% of the time. That's all the deterrence that actually matters. Criminals don't care about the sentence when they are commiting a crime.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 156 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Without the obviously planted evidence, all they have is a video that doesn't show his face. If i was on the jury, that's enough reasonable doubt for me.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

I mean, he'd need a functional alibi. So far, nobody seems to want to explain where he was when Thompson got got.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

Not really; without the items that were seized, they don't really have much of anything that would link him to the location, aside from some bad security camera footage that, IMO, doesn't really look like him. Insisting that he needs an alibi is reversing the burden of proof; it's saying that, unless he can prove he was elsewhere, then their claim must be correct. But they have so little without the evidence seized at the arrest that the case would be very thin.

Look, if you asked me where I was when The Asshole Brian Thompson was shot, I'd have no fucking idea unless it was something that was a big enough deal that I noted it in my calendar. I don't even remember where I was when 11 Sept. happened.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 4 points 7 hours ago

No he doesn't, that burden is on the state.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago

He was vacationing alone in NYC, so nobody knew or noticed him. No different than being home asleep.

[–] misteloct@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Literally was with me that night. I can describe his very private birthmark if needed.

[–] nukeforyou@lemm.ee 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And the eyebrows arent even close to similar

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If the Brow doesn't fit, we shall acquit.

[–] Snazz@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago

If the arrest was filthy, he’s not guilty.

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[–] biscuit@lemdro.id 71 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You be careful posting that stuff! Reddit will ban you like they did me! Edit: See they removed your post!

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 202 points 2 days ago (9 children)

America needs more Luigis.

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[–] AarynBlack@lemm.ee 125 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I just wanted to say Luigi without getting banned

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 101 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can post images, too! Ain't that neat?

[–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 62 points 1 day ago (5 children)
[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago

I'm on the mobile web client on Firefox (yeah still gotta switch) and it gives me an error navigating to your link here. Says the image is to wide

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is my favorite fact about him. He's been out here trying to make our lives better for YEARS as an unsung hero.*

*If you play Civ.

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[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 99 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

And it looks like finding them not guilty due to lack of evidence, not declaring nullification - for anyone who did not know.

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Wow, that sketch makes the youthful and confident looking Luigi look more like a mob underling from a GTA game. Yikes

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