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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 113 points 5 days ago (13 children)

I never understood this mentality, myself.

Gamers: "I never get laid... 😩"

Also Gamers: "Women are just kitchen accessories."

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago

because you think of "I never get laid" as a normal human need to connect with another person, which is what it is but they're too deep in misogyny to realize it. instead to them getting laid is a quest to complete and it involves a quest item known as a woman, not a character. so I never get laid has less of an undertone of "why can't I connect with a woman" and more of "when will we get our government mandated sex slaves"

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[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 134 points 6 days ago (5 children)

πŸŒπŸ‘¨β€πŸš€πŸ”«πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€

[–] Balinares@pawb.social 29 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I am in mad love with this Darmok-ass comment.

[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 16 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Damon's Gatsby, his glass raised

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[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 66 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Well then the obvious conclusion is that respecting women makes you better at video games.

[–] TwanHE@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

More likely higher ranked players finally figured out that keeping harmony within your team does wonders for your chance at winning. The amount of infighting I've had to stop just to save my elo is insane, why would i start something just because of someone's gender.

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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 21 points 4 days ago

This is part of why confidence is attractive.

It isn't that confident humans of the male reproductive caste treat women more flippantly; it's that actual competency correlates with not being as much of an insufferable whiny piece of shit.

[–] Inf_V@kbin.earth 86 points 6 days ago (5 children)

"but behaved more submissively towards players with a male voice" I want to know what they mean by submissive

[–] thelasttoot@lemmy.world 90 points 6 days ago

They were less confrontational and more likely to accept direction

[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago

They got into some freaky shit in those lobbies.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 28 points 6 days ago

Appeal to authority. Higher-skilled male players got to call the shots, lead, delegate etc.

[–] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Same way you're "submissive" to your boss

butt stuff, gotcha

[–] FlapJackFlapper@lemm.ee 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Hate is often just a reflection of insecurities and a product of attempting to alleviate cognitive dissonance. Someone feels scared, doesn't like feeling that way, and so converts their fear into anger -- misdirected at someone else.

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[–] MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip 69 points 5 days ago (10 children)

I have ~10k hours in counterstrike across multi game versions and accounts. I noticed a similar thing over my years. The players doing well in a match were often neutral towards gamer girls, but the guy having a shit match would be the fastest sack of shit every time. Especially if one of the top fraggers pointed out they were being beaten by a girl.

Obviously there are always exceptions to any rules but in my anecdotal experience the guys who were confident in their abilities didn't care about women but losers would attack them just for speaking.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

EspeciallyΒ if one of the top fraggers pointed out they were being beaten by a girl.

Not really a gold star by the top player’s name for this, either. The comment alone leaves plenty of room to be interpreted as β€œgirls should be easy to beat/poor gamers because they’re girls.”

[–] MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip 18 points 5 days ago (5 children)

They wouldn't say "you're getting beaten by a girl" as much as they would respond to the guys losing their minds who happened to be below them on the scoreboard by saying things like "Why are you yelling at her she's playing better than you are shut up". Kinda way.

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[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 days ago

You're absolutely correct, I had a similar experience

I played CS for roughly the same amount of time; my clan ranges from DMG to Global, but we had a rule that if you were in the clan, we'd 5-man with you regardless of your rank, so if you were Silver, you'd have a chance to rub elbows and learn strategies from the higher skilled players.

Then we got a Global, a girl named Moon.

Holy hell, it's like people's brains did a 180Β°, they were incredibly mean to her, for no reason, and eventually it came out that she was trans, and they bullied her even worse, out of the server.

I kicked everyone who bullied/demonized Moon for being trans; because at the end of the day, it was about being a honest human being, and not just a CS player/gamer.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Man. I miss when gungame was filled with people and all the fun addons. Warcraft 3 mods, vote for knife fight, β€œgotcha bitch” with every knife kill.

I want to go back.

[–] CarnivorousCouch@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Counter Strike was way better when this was the vibe. I am so tired of competitive this and gun case that. I've never been interested in 5v5 scrimming in any serious way, but that's all CS2 wants me to do.

I want gun game, I want wc3, I want ZM. I want quirky custom maps (glass!) and quake sounds and !bet ct all. I want to fuck around with new friends on a server for an evening, not to sweat my balls off throwing practiced smokes on dust2.

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That summary may also explain why some men are so insecure about women earning more money than them too.

[–] squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 77 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Obligatory footnote: EvoPsych is mostly bunk, deeply intertwined with eugenics and riddled with homophobia, sexism and rape apologia.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

Traditionally, yes, but I do want to note that modern takes use it to also argue for cooperation, since working with with others is good for survival and passing on genes. They also are the first to tell people how bunk the alpha male crap is, and the fact a lone wolf is a dead wolf.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 49 points 5 days ago

I have noticed that all of these misogynists are incredibly insecure alpha-pretending males. Can't imagine how tiring this constant fear must be.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago

My daughter wanted to wear my headset when I was playing battlefield once. It was so funny listening to those losers rage because they Were getting stomped by a 5 yr old girl. Now days she still puts it on from time to time and it's still hilarious.

[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago

I remember the last time I got messaged by some misogynist dipshit, way back in Halo 5, blaming me for losing the game. ...When he was the worst performing player in the team. I just stared at the post game report and wondered how the heck the dude even managed to get a ranking as low as he did.

[–] Shou@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Reminds me of this: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0361684319871913

In short. The higher the social status of the woman compared to the man, the more likely the man is to sexually objectify her. Wheras women aren't more likely to do this based on relative status.

Objectification is defined as reducing a person to solely looks and sexual function.

Similar stuff is seen in primates. Females are easier targets to assert dominance over. Since they are physically weaker. Male long tail maqacues losing their status, would seek out younger/weaker targets to establish dominance over. Something that was interesting too, is that female maqacues with more masculine facial features, were less often subjected to dominance seeking behaviour (from both males and females if I recall correctly) than females with more feminine faces.

It seems to boil down to "who can I dominate with little risk?" Female? Easy. Big male? Stupid idea. Young male? No problem. Male of equal size? Potentially.

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[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 33 points 6 days ago (3 children)

So my transition from cringe lord to become a better individual overall is actually just me getting better at video game? Fair enough

[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

No, but it means you give less of a shit when you lose.

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[–] orins@lemmings.world 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That’s an interesting study. It makes sense that dominance-seeking behavior follows a β€˜low-risk, high-reward’ strategy across species. The connection between status, objectification, and primate behavior is fascinating Morse Code Translatorβ€”wonder if similar patterns appear in different cultural contexts.

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 22 points 5 days ago

Playing online since dialup/Internet cafe days, can confirm. Also it’s just more fun to get along.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 11 points 5 days ago

I was a Halo 3 try hard and if anything I was nicer to female voices because I stupidly wanted to woo them. IDK exactly what the logistics of that would have been thinking back.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

"I can't even beat a girl!?"

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 22 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 62 points 6 days ago (5 children)

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4503401/

Pretty sure it was just an excuse for the authors to play Halo, but skimming the study it still looks like valid science.

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[–] Elevator7009@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

work to improve the skill gap or draw 20

acknowledge that one singular woman is currently better than you at this one particular skill or draw 20

man it's like there are options that don't involve aggression towards another person for… not being bad at a video game

I count myself lucky the men I know in real life are chill, and that I am not too interested in PvP games, scared off by the constant reinforcement from stories online that someone will be shitty to me because I am a woman. When I did play TF2 it was always pubs mic off and with a very gender-neutral username.

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