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US stocks were battered by a sell-off Friday after China retaliated against the United States for President Donald Trump’s tariffs in a tit-for-tat that escalates a global trade war.

The Dow plunged by 1,950 points Friday afternoon, or 4.82%, pulling back slightly after being down more than 2,000 points. The broader S&P 500 was 5.4% lower. The tech-heavy Nasdaq Composite was 5.36% lower and on track to close in a bear market — down more than 20% from its record high in December.

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[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

Mhm, stockpiling in inverse positions was the right choice! Thank god I can at least earn some money while watching the world burn..

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Please let me know when to buy.

[–] glitch1985@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

!remindme 2029

[–] BabyVi@lemmy.world 27 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder how that guy who was all "LGBT rights or Economic Stability?" feels about the situation now..

[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

he doesnt care. he is rich

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

So insensitive, his 10 billion is only 7.85 billion. How will they survive living like gutter trash?

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 90 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

You can bet every little bounce up it does is from his buddies buying up the dip until he drops the whole deal to restore things to normal. Suddenly the rich own an even higher % than they did before in just a few week's time.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

When do you think he will restore things to normal?

[–] FanciestPants@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

One month before midterms?

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 4 points 9 hours ago

My guess, around the time they buy up all the free floating stocks on the market.

[–] Nikelui@lemmy.world 22 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

Since we know it's a grift, is there anything non-billionaires can do to profit off the situation?

[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

The only good way I can think of is to short and wait, who knows how long this would prolong.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

If you just hold and don't sell, at some point wouldn't there be no sellers to meet the buying demands?

[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

But do you know how many people could be willing to sell? Also, the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

RN is the worst time to sell tbh. Hold and buy if you can

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 24 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

The problem is all his buddies know when he's going to do something so they can easily time their trades.

If you don't know when and what and how much, you're going to be at a massive disadvantage.

E.g - I'm sure insiders billionaires knew what these tarrifs were going to be, and they could sell in advance. Everyone else just knew they were coming, but not what, so there was more hesitation and uncertainty. And then the billionaires will know in advance that he's going to suddenly switch his mind, and we won't know until he does it.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, run to other countries

[–] MordercaSkurwysyn@lemm.ee 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Where? Pax Americana enveloped all of the developed world and American shanenigans have an impact on everywhere it would be nice to live. Late stage capitalism is a global problem nowadays. Americans are getting fucked economically but europeans are facing the collapse of security structures and the need for huge arms investments, also the wave of right wing populism doesn't seem to be receeding. IDK too much about situation in south America but apart from Argentina 100 years ago SA countries never seemed to be the best of countries to live. Developed nations of Asia probably have the same problems as Europe right now.

I guess we should just hope that China doesn't turn their strategy from economic expansion to something more imperialistic and will still be satisfied with us just consuming tons of their plastic shit.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 hours ago

europeans are facing the collapse of security structures and the need for huge arms investments

I'm actually hopeful it will spark a New Deal like situation and result in more and better jobs. Also, a lot of the military readiness stuff is dual use, for example the biggest hurdle for military readiness against Russia seems to be the terrible state of German railways.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Ok, howabout non millionaires?

[–] Eyro_Elloyn@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 hours ago

Let's break it down further.

I got 13 gil and some pocket lint.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 51 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

America had better get ready for the world calling Trump's "negotiating tactic" bluff.

[–] Sprawl@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

I like how the article’s title makes it sound like it’s China’s fault…

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 43 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

This is why I voted for Trump for his handling of the economy.

Biden would have crashed the markets if he stayed in.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 39 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If Kamala was president there would be people dying in Gaza right now!

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

And there wouldn't be that peace between Ukraine and Russia that was accomplished in 24 hours.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

He didn’t say which twenty four hours.

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[–] PurpleSkull@lemm.ee 19 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

Don't care about the grand casino lines and neither should you, unless you look at the fancy lines you personally invested in.

The bigger coming bomb will be when those tariffs actually catch up with domestic consumption (going down hard because no one has money anymore to pay for all of this), leading to mass layoffs, leading to even more reduction in consumption because even less people have money, leading to more layoffs, leading to... Mass austerity that will eat up the savings reached by dismantling the government, because of the brutal tax losses for the remnants of said government.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 15 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Americans should be angry because most American retirement plans are heavily rooted in the stock market these days.

America’s right has been pretty relentlessly trying to get people out of pensions and into 401Ks for decades, and now that same party is blowing up the economy yet again.

[–] turtle@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago

America’s right has been pretty relentlessly trying to get people out of pensions and into 401Ks for decades

Not just pensions. They've also been trying to get rid of Social Security in favor of private retirement accounts invested in the stock market for decades now.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 11 hours ago

It isn't just our retirement plans, it's also our jobs that are tied to the market. When stock prices drop, then companies start tightening their belts, which usually involves layoffs.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 hours ago

the savings reached by dismantling the government

As I understand that's also not showing the results they'd hoped to see based on calculations they were and are pulling directly out their asses.

[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 29 points 15 hours ago

Expect another 2-5k trim when the EU announces its retaliation.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 24 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

Calm down, it will be stable for the next 2 days. 😋

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 19 points 15 hours ago

Our glorious leader is so smart. He can destroy the country and the idiots will still follow him.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 19 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)
[–] longjohnjohnson@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Do you only fuck sharks that are communists, or are you a communist that fucks sharks?

I suppose that's not mutually exclusive, after thinking about it.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago

Communist shark

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Watching my retirement account get kicked in the balls sure feels great. I’m feeling so liberated.

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[–] Substance_P@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The biggest worry I have is that to obfuscate things, Trump is going to do something even more stupid in the next coming days.

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 14 hours ago

Every time he awakens is stupid.

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