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President Donald Trump on Thursday destabilized a global effort to limit mining in the deep sea, signing an executive order on Thursday that could eventually open up international waters to excavation firms that the United States unilaterally deems worthy.

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[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 80 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This man gives no fucks about the future beyond his lifespan. May it be short.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's what I find so crazy. Like, how narcissistic do you have to be to give this much of shit about ruling with an iron fist, fucking over poor people, and giving anyone that pays him enough whatever they want? He's got like 5 years tops with how awful he treats his body and how old he is. Either he's completely batshit crazy (very possible) or so deteriorated that he honestly has no idea what's going on (Also very possible)

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 days ago

I don't know, Kissinger lasted to be a hundred. The evil rich bastards always have a way to last longer than we expect.

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

There's a extreme likelyhood that he literally never thinks about his own mortality.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Other countries should legitimately just use stealthy munitions and sink any prospecting and exploitation ships out in international waters. I’m entirely serious. This is absolutely fucking insane, and anyone involved at any level should be given no quarter or mercy. This is an anti-humanist policy. The people doing this are enemies of humanity. I mean that in the starkest, strongest sense.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

It amounts to ecological terrorism against every nation

[–] tal@lemmy.today 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The company has pitched investors on a plan to send robots to the sea floor to vacuum up polymetallic nodules the size of golf balls that are packed with nickel, manganese, cobalt and copper, key minerals for the production of electronics and weapons.

Manganese nodules? That sounds familiar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Azorian

Project Azorian (also called "Jennifer" by the press after its Top Secret Security Compartment)[1] was a U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) project to recover the sunken Soviet submarine K-129 from the Pacific Ocean floor in 1974 using the purpose-built ship Hughes Glomar Explorer.[2][3] The 1968 sinking of K-129 occurred about 1,560 miles (2,510 km) northwest of Hawaii.[4] Project Azorian was one of the most complex, expensive, and covert intelligence operations of the Cold War at a cost of about $800 million, or $5.1 billion today.

The US designed the recovery ship and its lifting cradle using concepts developed with Global Marine (see Project Mohole) that used their precision stability equipment to keep the ship nearly stationary above the target while lowering nearly three miles (4.8 km) of pipe. They worked with scientists to develop methods for preserving paper that had been underwater for years in hopes of being able to recover and read the submarine's codebooks. The reasons that this project was undertaken included the recovery of an intact R-21 nuclear missile and cryptological documents and equipment.

The Soviet Union was unable to locate K-129, but the US determined its general location from data recorded by four Air Force Technical Applications Center (AFTAC) sites and the Adak Sound Surveillance System (SOSUS) array. The US identified an acoustic event on March 8 that likely originated from an explosion aboard the submarine, and was able to determine the location to within five nautical miles (5.8 mi; 9.3 km).[clarify]

The submarine USS Halibut located the boat using the Fish, a towed, 12-foot (3.7 m), two-short-ton (1.8 t) collection of cameras, strobe lights, and sonar that was built to withstand extreme depths. The recovery operation in international waters about six years later used mining for manganese nodules as its cover story.

The mining company and ship were nominally owned by reclusive billionaire Howard Hughes, but secretly backed by the CIA, who paid for the construction of the Hughes Glomar Explorer.[5] The ship recovered a portion of K-129, but a mechanical failure in the grapple caused two-thirds of the recovered section to break off during recovery.[6][7]

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Guess what this decade's celebrity billionaire is doing!

https://electrek.co/2022/03/22/elon-musk-tesla-working-new-manganese-battery-cell/

Elon Musk announces Tesla is working on new manganese battery cell

Mar 22 2022

https://electrek.co/2024/07/16/tesla-might-have-figured-out-longer-lasting-manganese-rich-batteries/

Tesla might have figured out longer-lasting manganese-rich batteries

Jul 16 2024

[–] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

Thanks for taking the time to tell us this. I had no idea.

[–] thiseggowaffles@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

Considering that the Pentagon keeps talking about UAPs primarily coming from the ocean moreso than space, this seems likely to be a short-lived venture.

[–] obvs@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

The United States is likely to be attacked by other countries at some point.

[–] dryfter@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago

I'm on the northern east coast. I have friends in California that try to get me to move there but I have no interest in experiencing an earthquake first hand -- blizzards and ice storms are traumatic enough.

If this is done on the east coast and we start experiencing California-level earthquakes....

[–] carlossurf@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

Great destroy the planet before trump dies in like 4 years from a heart attack what does he care

[–] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

I've seen Rapture. Would not recommend.

As an aside, why can't any of his stupid I-fucking-hate-this-future ideas be something that's actually kinda cool, if not also just as dangerous? Like a space elevator or a hole to access a near-infinite supply of magma to generate power, or dropping a nuke into the eye of a hurric- wait, scratch that last one. He already suggested it, but, like always, failed to follow through.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I know this is a stupid question, but is that even legal?

[–] LePoisson@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

A better question to ask, what will be done if it is illegal? If there's no consequences to illegal actions then what does it matter other than having an "il" in front of legal?

[–] tal@lemmy.today 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The US hasn't ratified UNCLOS, so in terms of international law, it's not bound by anything, though Executive Branches in the US have generally acted as if they are bound. Trump, on the other hand, doesn't even pay much attention to internal US conventions and rams right up against what's legally-proscribed, in addition to being actively hostile to internationalism, so I don't know how much he's going to care about convention here.

[–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

i wonder what real role "international law" plays against "international toleration". that said, who's going to fuck with history's most powerful king? nothing about this is shaping up well..

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

It orders the permit-granting agencies to expedite the permits, so probably.

Not that legal or illegal matters to the government any more.