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[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 189 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Publicly available factual information is a threat to an authoritarian regime

[–] grue@lemmy.world 112 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wikipedia, archive.org, and any similar essential services ought to be migrating their hosting and organizational headquarters to outside the US ASAP.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That's not something you can just do. All of there employees are Americans.

It would be better if they were spread across many countries so that one place couldn't cause a problem.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 71 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We have to protect Wikipedia. We have to.

[–] warbond@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If they take it down we'll make it again.

[–] variants_of_concern@lemmy.one 8 points 2 weeks ago

Gotta back it up

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 61 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

All you selfhosters out there, this is the cue to make your mirrors

[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Got my snapshot from Jan.

It's only 20gb.

You need an offline viewer. That's a snap /flat hub install. Kiwix I believe

[–] zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Says ~110gb for all of english version via kiwix. Did you exclude images or something?

[–] yonderer@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, they’re are different versions. Maxi is the 110GB one, there is also a nopic version that is quite a bit lighter.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just started, great suggestion.

I can't believe this shit. 2023 me wouldn't believe I'd be doing half of the things I'm doing now.

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

Just wait til 2025 you couldn't possibly believe what '27's got in stock :p

Though, any server schenanagins That may interest me for some hypotheical good in the world?

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No need

Install the free offline reader software from here

https://kiwix.org/en/

Then grab what content you want from https://dumps.wikimedia.org/kiwix/zim/

Here's English Wikipedia, with pictures from 2024 https://dumps.wikimedia.org/kiwix/zim/wikipedia/wikipedia_en_all_maxi_2024-01.zim

names with maxi have all the pictures names with mini few pictures and abridged content names with nopic have no pictures and abridged content

if it says science or basketball, it's just things flagged as science or things flagged as basketball.

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 3 points 1 week ago

Was weighing some options and think I'll be deploying this, thank you.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 54 points 2 weeks ago

They literally don't generate any revenue. Wikipedia is quite literally the definition of a non-profit.

Also, trump is barred from running non-profits due to fraud in NY, I feel like that should disqualify him from making these kinds of decisions.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 28 points 2 weeks ago

Good news and fun fact, the entirety of Wikipedia can be downloaded quite easily.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Does Wikipedia receive federal funding? If not, people can shut right up.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

I think it's in the single digit percentages of their funding.

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They're pretty flush with cash still. Trump can go after them, but for what? They'd need more corruption than they have in the judicial system today. They'll get there eventually, but they don't have it yet.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It’s not that there is no danger, but I don’t see anything immediate.

[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Is there any way to decentralize Wikipedia? P2P wikipedia? Because that seems like the best long term solution to this.

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, start with a mirror. A download is enough for yourself, but mirrors retain what is needed to rebuild the database. You will meed a lot of storage

[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I torrented the text of english wikipedia one time and deleted it a few weeks after to make space for my Monero node. What I meant by "decentralized Wikipedia" would be not only the files being stored in multiple locations but there also being some sort of system (including moderation I suppose) to broadcast edits across the network

[–] racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'll have to stop you right there, mate. You are reinventing blockchain.

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

It's more akin to torrenting really, I stumbled upon Wikipedia over IPFS

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wikipedia over IPFS, it seems to be a work in progress, but its something

that's actually pretty cool, thanks!

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

How would that work?

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

We need a federated Wikipedia (Fedipedia)

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

I feel like that is a mixed bag

It really isn't bad as is

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

The media manipulation information warfare department has virtually unlimited funds and anyone who steps out of line and questions the narrative gets the banhammer. That's why they went after TikTok.

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