send the money to lemmy devs instead of a domain.
this post was submitted on 06 May 2025
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I'd rather send it to a non-tankie platform. I regret my previous financial contributions.
Software works regardless of their political posturing. Your baker might be a nazi as well.
There's a difference between knowing my baker is a nazi and being unaware of it. It's morally wrong to be knowingly supporting a nazi, whether it's by buying their product or by donating to them directly doesn't matter.
It's true that bread stays bread regardless of the baker's political stance. But it's not like the nazi baker is the only one in town. Just get your bread from a different baker. Bread is bread. The point of alternatives is that you can pick your source, whom you want to support. And that's what OP is suggesting.
knowingly supporting a nazi
First, criteria for what one considers a nazi are open to interpretation and nowadays the bar is ridiculously low. We have a bicycle kitchen cooperative in Croatia where almost all of us volunteers hold leftist views, but there's an occasional boomer known to say problematic stuff as a shitty joke, or a grandma shows up with her son's bicycle that has one of the many Croatian totenkopf variants which the kid put up using same protocol as Marge with a potato. We never refuse to help them. I also engaged some of them in conversation and when you get down to the bottom of their exclusionary views you often find they're decent people with good moral compass and the stupid jokes or totenkopf stickers are adopted wholesale through the media or because of a personal tragedy.
Just get your bread from a different baker.
Sure, the free market will fix it, very American thinking. Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease. Croatia is a good example because our fight for independence in the 90s saw the attempted rehabilitation of actual nazis from the 40s as freedom fighters and Croatian patriots, which means that (still, nowadays) whenever boomers have a celebration with alcohol, there'll be some singing about the superlative exploits of actual nazis. It's just the way our society currently is, it's still our society. The only way to change that is to engage with them and show them you hold a different opinion and are still a relatable human being. I have a feeling most lemmy users would just cancel their entire family if they were Croatian.
First, criteria for what one considers a nazi are open to interpretation
Sure, as much as Elon 'weird dab' was...
The other day I saw someone on lemmy calling some other user a nazi because he didn't want to support .ml
And they suggested that if they don't want to support lemmy developers they should "go back to stormfront".
There surely is an abundance of people calling other nazis just because they disagree with them.
Now I have a interesting moral question.
What's if the nazi baker is the only in town or it's the only who make bread at a price you can afford?
There's certainly a threshold where morals outweigh the desire for a product or service.
It would depend on many factors, I don't think is as black/white as it may seen.
Piefed :)
Isn’t that somewhat the point of the federated system? Prevent censorship? Enable various points of view to have a platform? It’s somewhat up to the moderators of the groups and the community as a whole to determine what information is allowed on their local platforms.
On the internet, almost without fail, a few bad apples exist. And sometimes the bad apples really yell the loudest.
But not having an algorithm amplifying the bad apples is about the best we can hope for now.
Then kindly use something else.
internet tribalism is my faaaavourite <3
do you really need to start fights with people that are striving for the same goal, just because you have differing opinions on other things? do you think that different political parties should never work together?
my opinion is otherwise
How are you that sure they're striving for the same goal when their actions point to favouring authoracies and silencing opposition?
have the code they've written successfully aided them in doing that?
I ultimately agree with a lot of communism and as such I'm probably more likely to agree with the average Tankie than most people.
And with that disclaimer, yeah kinda it has aided them in doing that.
They created a reddit alternative that has a "default server" as it were. And they have the ability to admin that source of information to tailor to their specific ideological needs.
But is it effective in a grander scheme? That's pretty debatable.
i personally don't see that as an issue tbh, they were never really trying to push ml to be the main instance imo, i vividly remember when people were flooding in from r****t and because ml didn't really bother upgrading server hardware it was insanely slow, and so people moved to other new instances like .world instead
and i mean they have and always had a whole section of their docs dedicated to censorship resistance so i really doubt their purpose for ml is to censor people, but just to make a "safe space"/"echo chamber" (call it whatever you want) for tankies
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Hey only @ml and @hexbear are tankie right? World and ee aren't tankie are they?
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Don't give any money to domain squatters.
The idea there should be some definitive, canonical domain for the Fediverse is somewhat at odds with the core tenents of the Fediverse itself - decentralisation, and no single point of ownership or control. And on that basis, we absolutely should not care about a particular domain, or assign any level of 'specialness' to it.
I understand your worry - that some 'bad actor' could buy the domain and do something anti-Fediverse with it and mislead the public, but my response would be to simply not worry. The strength of the Fediverse is that we are diverse and unbothered by whatever nonsense some centralised platform is trying to pull. We don't have a profit motive. We don't care.
People who want to find the real Fediverse will absolutely still find us, all on their own, regardless of who owns some random domain :)
The .org seems to require a log in. I wonder what entity has these domains. I imagine the folks working to manifest the fediverse don't have the capacity to buy up all the possible domains.
It also doesn't even make sense to buy up all the possible domains. It would just be a waste of money, and surely someone could come up with a domain name that you didn't think of (fediverse-network.com).
Very true! The whole domain squatting thing is pretty bizarre to me.
I don't think reddit would care enough to try and defend itself against lemmy. Lemmy isn't that much of a big threat for them.
Yet.
Yet.
How much is it?
Lol, that's insane. I hope everybody saves their money for better things.
Holy shit. Fuck that.
What a ridiculous price.
I'll give them $20 Final offer
You get free business cards with it. For 500k you get free business cards. Still got pay extra for the rest though what a rip off.
WTF is it cause it's a term that's trending?
If every Lemmy user donated $1...
You still wouldn't have enough, but you'd be close.
You have to fill out a form to inquire about price. So I don't know.
fediverse.xyz is $299,888.00
Just donate to PeerTube
someone should start a fundraiser so we can buy it
I think there are better things to do with $500k than throw it all away for a useless domain name, like distribute it to the people who maintain fediverse software and host instances.
Nooo we can't do that because I don't 100% align with the beliefs of lemmys devs so I'd rather see the project go broke
You forgot the /s
Unironically the mindset of guys like cm002.
you'd probably be better off setting up your own domain server and trying to get that working
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