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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 5 points 3 hours ago

you can thank the daughters of confederacy for keeping it alive throughout the centuries.

Didn’t the United States Army defeat those traitors?

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago

Sherrrrman grab the torch

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 28 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Setting aside the massive amount of racism of the Confedercy, why are southerens so focused on the treasonous side of a civil war?

It's the racism isn't it.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago

They never gave up, there was always a south will rise again patriotism

[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Always has been. The flag they fly wasn't even the Confederate States flag, but a made up amalgamation resurrected in 1948 by the Dixiecrats to opposed Civil Rights. All modern bullshit about the Confederacy is rooted in some post reconstruction era racist asshole trying to bring back the Confederacy for some other racist ass motivations.

Never trust any racist ass inbred fuckwit when they say, "Heritage not hate" because that flag is solely based on hate. So was the confederacy for that matter. Now excuse me while I got back to writing petitions to get Confederate statues replaced with statues of John Brown.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Even the idea that it's your heritage.... I'm sorry, I thought your heritage was being an American. It's been nearly 250 years since the country was formed, including many of the states of the confederacy. Even the youngest state that seceded, Texas, has been in the union for 180 years. It was a part of the union for over 15 years before seceding for 4, too, almost 4 times as long. But no? It's the 4 years that matter most? The 4 year period where the racist slavers seceded because they wanted to make sure they could continue to own humans as livestock and deny rights, freedoms and even basic human decency to people for the color of their skin or their genetic ancestry? Where they fought and died to protect THAT institution and way of life? That's your heritage? ... well, ok, then. But that sounds pretty fucking racist, doesn't it?

[–] Marthirial@lemmy.world 25 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

These hicks have contributed, influenced or affected so little of benefit, they need to give themselves medals when they came second on a two players race to feel they somehow matter.

It's so sad if it wasn't for the fact the whole "heritage" is defending the right to own and abuse people.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

It was four fucking years and most of that was a war that left your major cities in flames. It's crazy that I don't consider high school my heritage but these fuckin nitwits can't let go of 4 years like a 150 years ago.

[–] Rubanski@lemm.ee 10 points 14 hours ago

Cool, Germany then should get a Wehrmacht "heritage" month as well. Ridiculous

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 29 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

A shithole state so bad, it's worse than Alabama.

[–] abstrusedilemma@lemm.ee 10 points 13 hours ago

Alabama's gotten me so upset

Tennessee made me lose my rest

And everybody knows about Mississippi, goddamn

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 23 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Bruh simpsons lasted longer than confederacy. There is mo heritage there.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 5 points 6 hours ago

I have spinach in my freezer that lasted longer than the Confederacy.

[–] JPSound@lemmy.world 15 points 18 hours ago

Yeah. Not just longer. But waaaaay longer. Like, over +30 years longer.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 26 points 20 hours ago

Imagine celebrating something 150+ years later that lasted ~4 years, was a total failure and, at least as of right now, the biggest blemish on American History.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It's a myth that more Americans died in the Civil War than any other conflict. They inflate the numbers by counting slavers as Americans. I mean we didn't put the names of the Vietnamese on that wall did we? (fucking thing would stretch to Richmond if we did)

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

How many people who actually fought were slave owners?

[–] Mathazzar@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Doesn't matter. If your constitution literally states your government belief is that one race has the right to own another and you willing fight for that, then you're liable because you're working to uphold that belief.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 21 hours ago

Just a reminder that Mississippi did not ratify the thirteenth amendment until 2013.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 17 hours ago

Still competing with Florida and Arkansas and Louisiana for shittiest state. Winning.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

I recommend yellow paint be applied to all loser flags.

[–] Baphomet_The_Blasphemer@lemmy.world 20 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, if they want a month long reminder that they're a bunch of losers, I guess I'm ok with that.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 15 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

The confederacy are the most widely celebrated giant losers of all time, and it isn’t even close.

There are more monuments commemorating their failure than there are commemorating most successes

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

You can thank Wilson for most of those. He also used the presidency to re-found the KKK. He also was one of the authors of the Lost Cause Southern Revisionist BS.

[–] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 0 points 16 hours ago

Such as, famously, the Statue of Liberty. But that's never taught in schools, of course

[–] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 113 points 1 day ago

Heritage of taking a fat fuckin L

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 110 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can confirm, unfortunately I grew up and live here.

[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Live in nearby Memphis. Biggest cesspool on planet Earth

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

i forgot theres 2 memphises, one in tennessee too. red states sure love to copy famous locations.

[–] Archangel1313@lemm.ee 26 points 1 day ago

Are they going to have a "Slavery and Treason Parade"?

[–] Blackout@fedia.io 66 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why not call it Racist Hillbilly month instead?

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Everyone knows that's the definition of "Confederate"

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

"That's my battle flag". And they all hang it up with a U.S. flag and somehow think they are patriotic. The Confederate flags only ever faught battles against the U.S. In fact I'm fairly certain with the rhetoric Donald Trump has used to say we should deport everyone who is anti America, it would mean anyone who flys a conferederate flag should be deported. Surely it won't blow up in their faces in a couple years.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago

A member of the Rankin Greys, a Sons of Confederate Veterans camp based in Florence, Mississippi, announced the proclamation in on April 18.

The SCV annually asks governors to issue the Confederate Heritage Month proclamations.

The SCV is a neo-Confederate organization that espouses “Lost Cause” ideology, which promotes a revisionist version of history that whitewashes the Confederacy’s racist past and downplays the role of slavery in the Civil War. SCV owns and operates Beauvoir, the museum and historic home of Confederate President Jefferson Davis; the organization annually receives $100,000 from the State of Mississippi for development and maintenance.

I hate Mississippi Nazis.

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How long did the confederacy last again, 4 years? Really need a month to recognize a screwball government that only lasted through one presidential term's worth of time?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 21 hours ago

It's their "heritage" they want to celebrate though...

So literally slave ownership. That's it.

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[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 day ago

Isn't that every month down there?

[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A Declaration of the Immediate Causes which Induce and Justify the Secession of the State of Mississippi from the Federal Union.

In the momentous step which our State has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin.

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_missec.asp

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 5 points 19 hours ago

"But, states' rights!"

Yeah, states' rights to own slaves.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why isn't this considered treason? They fucking lost. Wtf isn't any confederate symbolism illegal and punishable by prison time? I'd support this. Also same thing for nazi shit. Didn't Germany make all nazi shit illegal?

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Wtf isn’t any confederate symbolism illegal and punishable by prison time? I’d support this.

Basic rule on policymaking: don't give yourself powers you wouldn’t want your opponents to have.

Quoting A Man of All Seasons

Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!

Sacrificing basic civil liberties when they don't suit you is a threat to everyone's liberty. Their willingness to do that is why everyone hates authoritarians. It's cutting off your nose to spite your face.

There are better ways to beat these shitheads.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Whats your view on Germany then? They have laws prohibiting nazi symbols and holocaust denial, which includes prison time. Are they authoritarian because of this?

There are better ways to beat these shitheads.

Do explain. It seems to me they're winning. These are the types that support trump, and trump not only won, but he won the popular vote.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Do explain. It seems to me they’re winning.

The way we have before? Maybe crack open a history book & read about the civil rights movement? Or read about the Enlightenment era development of liberal political philosophy leading to Western governments founded on individual rights, rule of law, liberal democracy, secularism defeating authoritarian & traditional governments in opposition to all of it.

Whats your view on Germany then?

Misguided, wrong, and slipping into trouble.

[…] In 2021 politicians tightened the rules further, worried by the spread of abuse and disinformation on social media. Courts may now punish insults against politicians especially severely, if their work is “significantly impeded”. In Mr Bendels’s case the court ruled, dubiously, that an impartial observer would not be able to tell that the image of Ms Faeser had been altered. That ensured her right to protection from defamation was given priority over his to freedom of expression.

Prosecutors are happy to argue that defamation may impede politicians from exercising their duties. A Bavarian court has ruled that insults “beyond the absolute minimum of respect” can be punished. And more may be to come. The governing agreement between Germany’s incoming coalition partners pledges to empower a regulator to crack down on the “deliberate dissemination of false factual claims”.

Last year police searched the flat of a pensioner who had shared an image on X calling Robert Habeck, Germany’s vice-chancellor, an “idiot”. Mr Habeck had filed a criminal complaint about the image, although the prosecutor was acting on a separate notification.

[…] Germany is not an outlier in freedom-of-expression rankings. But it is not just foreigners who are worried. In 2024 just 40% of Germans told Allensbach, a pollster, that they felt able to express themselves freely. The figure has halved since 1990 (see chart).

In Germany, as in America and elsewhere, free-speech crusades are often regarded as the preserve of the dissident right. Mr Bendels is close to the hard-right Alternative for Germany party, which often complains that its views are unfairly suppressed. Yet left-wing activists, especially pro-Palestinians, have also fallen prey to police and prosecutors. Police in Berlin have shut down conferences and demonstrations in attempts to see off hate speech. Academics who supported pro-Palestine students have been threatened with a loss of funding. The risks to free expression do not go only in one direction.

While the US has many flaws, its free expression policy isn't one of them. Its policy is more coherent & faithful to those liberal philosophic foundations that limit expression more closely to the harm principle (eg, threats, imminent lawless action, defamation). It was crucial to the advances of the civil rights movement.

Giving an authority power to decide which harmless expression we're allowed to observe or produce is what authoritarians do. And no, offending someone isn't harm.

My advice is to quit lazily threatening everyone by arguing civil rights are the problem, and to use those civil rights (& civil disobedience) to organize & get shit done like the activists of before.

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Our leaders have a history of letting them live to stop the killing. They did the same thing after WWII. Thanks to nuclear bomb wet dreams, many of those nazi's ended up in high positions within the govt., eventually.

We won't make the same mistake this time.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

“We won’t make the same mistake this time” yet ya’ll keep doing it over and over again. Besides empty platitudes, what are you gunna do to stop it?

[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 day ago

If you want to to celebrate this shit then i won't be sad if you find yourself hanged

[–] xyzzy@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago

Racist Traitor Heritage Month doesn't have quite the same ring

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