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I am an LSU fan and during Burrow's college days I noticed that on a lot of deep balls Joe will under throw his receivers and Chase and JJ were almost always able to track back and make the catch. I assumed that Joe didn't have the consistent arm strength.

When he came to the NFL I was a little worried about this being taken advantage by the higher caliber of DB's in the league. But it has continued to work and he can pinpoint dimes on deep balls as well so it has to be a tactical decision based on coverages and how the DB's are playing his receivers.

I only watch LSU/Saints and now Bengals games aside from sporadic highlights. I don't remember Drew Brees doing this, do any other top level QB's strategically under throw their receivers like Burrow does?

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[–] ccemtp@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago
[–] Nanteen1028@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you just under throw a deep ball you get free results, a catch, a drop, or a PI. So two out of three results ain't that bad

[–] on-the-cheeseburgers@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well or the DB just looks back and intercepts the ball, that's also definitely an option.

[–] AhoyLunarBoot@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

So the DB would "catch" the ball? No need to be so pedantic.

[–] Andy-Is-Hot@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

No, you’re missing a pretty big one.

[–] bosoxlover12@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] k___e__n@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't know if Flacco was the OG but man did they make a nice living on the underthrown deep ball.

[–] South-by-north@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Flacco and Torrey Smith didn't start it, but they perfected it

[–] eatmyopinions@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Flacco gets all of the credit but when Torrey Smith left that gravy train ended.

[–] iamsomeguy25@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Didn’t it also reappear in Philly?

[–] KD119@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Torrey Smith DPI flag hall of fame

[–] FlowVoids@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wasn’t Jacoby Jones always at the top of WR pass interference yards because Flacco would always intentionally underthrow him?

[–] Doc_Hershey@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlowVoids@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

That’s it!

[–] mykonoscactus@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Pretty sure this is to influence penalties too.

[–] shortwhitecwebb@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don’t know if it was intentional or not but this was the Derek Carr special for a while

[–] wierdjokes@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

It was definitely intentional when Joe Flacco specialized in it.

[–] Naturalhighz@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

He 100% did. It had to be intentional too because his arm strength was not the issue.

[–] Moody_skip65w@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

There's usually a zone where the receiver is supposed to be when 30+ yards down the field. Qbs don't intentionally underthrow deep passes.

[–] strops_sports@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A lot of QBs do. Aj Brown has made some great catches on under thrown balls

[–] 5HeadedBengalTiger@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah a lot of people here are mentioning drawing DPI which is definitely true, but there are cases where the QBs intentionally underthrow it to let the WR come back for it and try to shake the DB in the process

[–] Naturalhighz@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Derek Carr has made a career out of it. You should know watching Saints

[–] fukuoka_gumbo@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

He hasnt been doing it that much with us. Also Rashid Shaheed is just a freak and cant be interfered with

[–] bsgreene25@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It was the only offensive threat the colts had to offer during their Carson Wentz season.

[–] johnhughthom@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Yep! Came here to say that. Wouldn't surprised if pass interference had more yards than any individual receiver that year. Some hefty chunks of yardage gained that way.

[–] HandsomeJaxx@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Was it strategy when Chase got hurt last week on a badly under thrown ball that should have been a walk in TD?

I’m not sure it’s pure strategy so much as the fact Burrow has only ever produced in his football career with absurdly good receivers. Maybe his arm isn’t as good as he gets credit for because the receivers can make up the difference.

[–] parkerwhodey@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Terrible take, he made Trenton Taylor and Irwin look like very serviceable WR’s.

[–] throughNthrough@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Joe was having a great rookie season despite throwing to a bunch of average dudes and a oline trying to get him killed but go ahead.

[–] anycoluryoulike1@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

As somebody who watched Torrey Smith and Joe Flacco the answer is yes.

[–] ToneyTime19@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Not if your CJ Stroud… just throw tuddies baby

[–] Lamb-Sauce7788@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Sometimes I think they are just bad throws. Like this past game against the Bills he had Chase open for a TD but it was underthrown. He did hurt his finger right before so maybe that was the reason, but in years past if he ever has a bad throw it is usually a deep one.

[–] Marquee_Ditchwriggle@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

It was literally the Ravens offense under late stage Joe Flacco.

[–] Zoop_Zest@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Seems like a huge stretch to say they’re intentionally under thrown, because if they’re on target, it’s 6.

[–] accountforeddit@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Lol what? You're going to highlight Burrow as the main example of this? Flacco did it all the time. Mahomes did it last week too.

[–] banksinatra17@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

[This] right here is a perfect example of the strategic under throw. Really highlights his chemistry with Ja’Marr (https://youtu.be/zqroKhihy68?si=zVZ6xzwVP7lGmoHw)

[–] fukuoka_gumbo@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Tom Brady constantly did this