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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I have never met a leftist I didn't like

but I only consider somebody a leftist if they respect human rights.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 2 points 44 minutes ago

I'm always under the assumption that everyone can be an asshole. I had a very good friend qnd we're both vegans. To me it's just a dietary choice that i made, for her it was almost like a religion. Like when she met someone who was also a vegan or saw someone on tv that was a vegan, she always assumed that it's a good person, or just rooted for that person, no questions asked.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago
[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago
[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

See Ken Loach’s Land & Freedom on how factionalism and in-fighting within the Republican forces in the Spanish Civil war allowed the fascist Junta to win.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Are we talking about actual leftist infighting, or mistaking liberals for the left and calling it infighting?

Also I'm almost certain that the actual left infights far less than the right. The only reason two Trump administrations hasn't started the literal fourth reich yet is because they infight so hard that they can't stick to any plan.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

centrists say everything is all progressives fault. But also that progressives will never be allowed to have any place of authority in the party. They'd sooner court republicans. So they will lose the youth vote for good and go extinct, assuming the country survives their idiocy at all.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 hours ago

Centrists will blend quietly into the right the way that Homer backs his way into a hedge.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

Liberals, as in advocates for liberalism and not a liberal party (which doesn't even exist in the USA), are the entire left of the USA.

[–] stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago

So it's accurate but they're both wrong because

  1. He is the left.

  2. He shouldn't even be trying to converse with literal USSR advocates and literal anarchists as if they were part of his base.

Nobody is left enough for anyone else on the left. You agree with me on an issue but differ on execution? You may as well be Trump!

[–] Bleys@lemmy.world 47 points 11 hours ago
[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 17 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

this whole platform be like:

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I was recently banned for being "transphobic" for telling people what far right people believe about trans people, in the third person because I'm not far right nor have I ever been.

I've been pro-trans rights (AKA human rights) since I knew what the word "transgender" meant, which is going on twenty years or so now?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm banned from like 6 blahaj zone communities for one comment I made where me and two other users discussed the overlap of trans and gay.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Lemmy has a REALLY bad problem with people who dont actually read comments and process them. They skim read the post, see a few keywords and then argue the point that they want to argue regardless of what the original comment was.

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

But... That's like 80% of the internet.

[–] klu9@lemmy.ca 25 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] nsrxn@scribe.disroot.org 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

tale as old as time

I didn't see this film until the 2010s, and I couldn't believe how accurately it lampooned my local scene.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

err, what movie is it? Yes, I live in a cave.

[–] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 hour ago

Monty Python - Life of Brian

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 21 points 12 hours ago (2 children)
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml -3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Political LeftRightism (n.)

Definition:

Political LeftRightism is a spatially encoded meta-framework of political orientation that frames ideological discourse along a singular, bipolar axis, left versus right,thereby reducing the full multidimensional landscape of political thought into a linear spectrum. As a memetic penetrator and perceptual instrument, LeftRightism functions not as a neutral map but as a meta-weapon of the ruling class: a cognitive architecture designed to channel dissent, structure debate, and neutralize system-level critique by confining political possibility to a predefined, adversarial dialectic within the system's own terms.

Operational Mechanisms:

Perceptual Confinement: Constructs a false totality of ideological space by placing all positions, grievances, and aspirations on a left-to-right continuum. This flattens pluralistic thought into a binary schema and frames radical alternatives as fringe “extremes.”

Cognitive False Equivalence: Establishes symmetry between left and right regardless of historical asymmetry in power, violence, or systemic entrenchment. This symmetry encourages the illusion of balance where structural inequality remains.

Controlled Opposition: Absorbs political resistance into legible categories that the system has already immunized against. By permitting debate only between "acceptable" sides of the spectrum, it constrains opposition into predictable, ineffectual loops.

Ideological Compartmentalization: Prevents synthesis of cross-axis or off-spectrum worldviews (e.g., spiritual leftism, post-capitalist traditionalism, decentralized communitarianism) by declaring them incoherent or invisible.

Map-as-Reality Substitution: Through repetition and institutional embedding, LeftRightism replaces the messy, evolving reality of political life with a static cartographic abstraction, inducing conceptual dependency on the spectrum itself.

As Meta-Weapon: Political LeftRightism operates as an epistemic instrument of enclosure, a framework-level tool of hegemony rather than a position within debate. It disguises its own structural function beneath the appearance of neutrality and exhaustiveness. By scripting political meaning into a legible diagram, it enables elites to:

Predict, manage, and diffuse unrest;

Legitimize centrism as “reasonable” and extremes as dangerous;

Fragment class solidarity into partisan identities;

Avoid exposure of vertical dynamics (top vs. bottom, ruler vs. ruled) by focusing attention horizontally.

Distinction: Unlike left- or right-wing ideologies, which offer substantive (if partial) theories of value or structure, LeftRightism is not an ideology per se but a cartographic control mechanism—an ideological exoskeleton that shapes and constrains all ideologies that operate within it. Its power lies not in its content, but in its pre-conscious adoption as the default schema of political orientation.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

If partisan identities are different enough that they don't ally then that means their differences are too great.

[–] justcallmelarry@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

Futurama is just a slightly different Simpsons!

We are enemies now

[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

I was going to comment that OPs meme sums up db0 really well, but this one does that even better.

[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

There are inherently more ways to imagine changes than to point at the status quo.

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

Is this Anime Futurama?

(Seriously, wtf is this shit?)

Edit: Lol okay, they did a weird episode.

Futurama is gonna look so funny if they actually committed to doing Japanese-Style Animation for future episodes 🤣, like it'd be comedy gold.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Anybody else remember Kappa Mikey?

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 hours ago

This meme reminded me of all the different flavours of Christianity.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

If there's an actual debate you've got to define terms. People's definitions of 'leftist' can be pretty wild, especially if the debate is between an American and... mostly anyone outside America.

I have seen people waxing poetic about Imperial Japan and the Jakarta Method who consider themselves leftist, while at the same time associate outright NazBols with the left.

So 'what do you actually mean by tankie/liberal?' will usually cut through a lot of debate perv noise.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago

I have seen people waxing poetic about Imperial Japan

What? Who? Where? That's an absolutely wild take.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 5 points 10 hours ago

And people love the no true Scotsman fallacy and constantly throw out that the person isn’t really this or that

[–] Sibshops@lemm.ee 48 points 15 hours ago (12 children)

One thing the right is good at doing is falling in line, no matter that the agenda being pushed.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

Heh, don't let that fool you, they still infight like crazy despite that. Examples include the hilarious collapse of the NJP, the assassination of Rockwell (leader of the American Nazi Party) and labeling every existing neo-Nazi group "feds" because they're inevitably embarrassing and scandal-filled.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 hours ago

Honestly I'm fairly certain they infight even harder than the left does. They just wouldn't self-critically admit to it like we would. Cause they don't self-crit.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

The right has their fair share of infighting. They may all want heirarchy, but they disagree on who should be on top. They can all agree on scapegoating an outgroup, but disagree on which people fall into that outgroup. Like, the ultimate endgame of fascism is for the last fascist to kill the second to last fascist for not being white enough.

They appear to be united because most of us don't go into their spaces and lurk, because, I mean, ew. If a Trump supporter came to Lemmy, they'd find people quite united against them, and if one of us went on Truth Social, we'd find them quite united against us, but that doesn't mean they actually get along internally.

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