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Inspired by that thread last week about stacking an entire team with elite offensive linemen and running for 3 yards every single play.

What other crackpot strategies would you like to see an NFL team try? I’ve got two…

1: A rugby-style offense that’s the polar opposite of the tush push. get your speedsters in a Flying V formation in the open field and let them lateral it to each other.

2: An offense that starts 2 mobile QBs (one lefty one righty) in shotgun every play. ball could get snapped to either one to run a somewhat normal offensive scheme, or just max out the gimmicks and do a bunch of flea-flicker, double-pass type stuff with the two guys back there

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[–] Quirky-Lawyer-3409@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I want to see more swinging gate plays and more pop passes.

[–] Milomilz@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

More fumblerooskis

[–] ViolentAmbassador@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I always wanted to see a team take OL out and put more speed on the field in late game lateral play situations. Then the Cowboys put Zeke at center and I learned why they don't do that.

[–] 3puttbogeyking@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Hire the best Madden player in the world as the Offensive Playcaller for the Packers

Looking at the Dolphins schedule I can't see Tua back in the MVP conversation unless they rattle off 4 decisive multiple score wins over their last 4 games. Jets are gonna murder his stats though.

[–] gotmail1414@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

More frequent laterals after catches. With more defensive philosophies emphasizing shell coverages for big-play prevention and then rallying to tackle, it seems like a counterpunch for the offenses to run a couple hook-and-ladder-type plays each game.

[–] jobie_deez@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd like to see defenses get ultra aggressive in the fourth quarter when they are up by less than a touchdown. I want to see all out blitzes every down.

The idea is to not give up a clock killing touchdown drive. You either force a punt, or give up a quick touchdown. This lets you get the ball back with a chance to end the game on a touchdown drive of your own.

[–] Daily_Phoenix@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

That's literally what happend in the Denver game minus the spread.

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[–] tytrim89@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Let us evolve the Tush Push. There is no rule about throwing players forward. Employ a small durable player that on the snap of the ball can be thrown over the line by two players, similar to a shot put.

Whatever evolution of offense Bellicheck was going for with Gronk and Hernandez. He could never quite get it right after the first one kind of broke but he was on the cusp of a brand new system utilizing basically only tight ends and running the football.

[–] Empty_Lemon_3939@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Can a player run up another player? I say we put treads on a fullback and let a half back climb and jump the line

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[–] Salty_Orchid@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The 40-40 chuck it up strategy. Basically if you are a team at the 40 yard line or greater, every play should just be a chuck it 40 yards or more deep pass. Why? Each time you do it, one of 4 things are likely to happen.

1)A completed deep pass (Good) 2)A pass interference call (Good) 3)An incomplete pass (nul) 4)An interception (Bad)

So 50% of likely options are good and only 25% are harmful. Yet because this strategy only starts at the 40 yard line, you have basically made a punt anyway so the harmful result isn't really that punishing.

[–] Ima_Uzer@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Well, an incomplete does cost you a down, so I wouldn't call that null.

[–] Empty_Lemon_3939@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you take enough deep shots eventually one will be DPI statistically

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[–] PCSean@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Replace every offensive player with huge lineman and just do jumbo goal line runs up the middle. Every play

[–] Stubbs94@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

My team doesn't have 11 linemen left to do it. Given the injury report from yesterday, we might not have 11 players left.

[–] Smorgas_of_borg@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember the Packers doing this against the Lions with Eddie Lacy once. Every single play was Eddie Lacy up the middle for like 8-9 yards.

I mean, it worked so why wouldn't they keep doing it?

[–] Ima_Uzer@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Do you remember Craig "Ironhead" Heyward? Or Christian Okoye, or maybe William "The Refrigerator" Perry being put in the backfield on the goal line?

[–] THEW0NDERW0MBAT@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

More 2 QBs teams. The old saying is if you have 2 QBs you have no QB, but with how the NFL is maybe half the teams have a locked in QB. The other half are ok to suck anyways, might as well try and fuck with opponents

[–] PopcornDrift@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Put them on the field at the same time and really see what you can cook up lol

[–] Stubbs94@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

We did it last season, we ran a qb by committee... It was... A tactic....

[–] AFineDayForScience@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Run a wishbone with a RB, FB, and running QB

[–] Remarkable-Mind4409@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Add flea flickers and trick plays too and that would either be the dumbest move of all time, or unstoppable

[–] grenamier@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

If Levis is going to start the rest of the year, convert Tannehill back to a WR and line him up in the slot.

[–] gaobij@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

We used to use EJ Manuel as a hard count specialist.

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[–] Imnotsureanymore8@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

A donkey to kick field goals.

[–] antoin3walk3r@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I, for years, have badly wanted to see an NFL team put the kicker in motion for long field goals.

I know it's possible. I've been able to get the timing down reasonably consistently after just a handful of practice attempts and it definitely adds a bit of range to the kick as you get much more speed vs. the two step run up.

The obvious negatives are that if you mess up the timing you are kinda fucked and it becomes really easy for the defense to time the snap. But I'd love to see a team implement it, and only bring it out if theyre down <4 points late and need a 65+ yarder.

First time you do it, everyone's just gonna be confused, but once they catch on you can start throwing fakes at them. Just send the kicker in motion and don't snap the ball. Teams anticipating the snap based on your kickers motion are gonna fly offside and bingo. Now your 65 yarder is a much more palatable 60 yards.

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[–] Ixziga@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

2 mobile quarterbacks, line doesn't know who will get the ball, whoever gets rushed can just lateral to the other qb who can then throw or run. There's probably a football reason this is a trash idea but that's the craziest thing I can think of, and offenses need to do something to beat these pass rushes because it feels like o lines are just getting destroyed this year.

[–] Prior_Tone_6050@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I want to see some fake spikes. Every time I see a defense lazily get into rough position barely paying attention inside the 5 as they wait for the spike, I wish someone would just snap it and walk it in.

[–] Loch_Ness_Lemons@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Like Marino did back in the day, or more recently big Ben.

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[–] qwertyuioper_1@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

if Tyreek could learn to be a holder for fgs the Dolphins could literally probably run fake fg jet sweeps lol

[–] Revfunky@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Go for it on every 4th down, because I want to see if it works.

[–] macck_attack@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I’d like to see an O-Line of Silverback gorillas.

[–] Megatron4Prez2024@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

More flea flickers!!!!

[–] sielingfan@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the two minute drill, I'd love to see a team work the middle of the field aggressively and then, when the ball carrier is about to be tackled in bounds, he should hurl the ball out of bounds to stop the clock

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[–] Smorgas_of_borg@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

"I'm going to draft someone nobody's ever heard of in the first round. They'll never see that coming!" - Bob Quinn

[–] FundioRider@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Never punt. Like, don't even waste a roster spot on the position

[–] daybreaker@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I wish Payton had designed an offense around Taysom instead of trying to shoe horn Jameis into the Brees pocket passer offense.

Line up Taysom and AK, 80% runs, lots of options where Taysom can keep it, lots of 6th OL and blocking TE sets, but just enough pass attempts in the first half to keep the defense honest.

[–] DethFeRok@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Not related to team play, but I had an idea for the game as a whole. What if they split the end zone into partitions, and let’s say if you scored in the middle you got 6, but if you scored in the periphery you only got 4. I wonder what kind of wild ass offensive and defensive schemes that would induce.

[–] I_am_-c@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Tush-Push 2.0...

Don't know how many people watched the OSU/Rutgers game this past weekend, but after building up the tush push as unstoppable for 2 years, in a game (playoff or superbowl) that the Eagles really need both a conversion and potentially a touchdown, snap to Hurts who will pass the ball back between his legs to Swift to bounce outside.

Defenses are literally putting everyone between the tackles because the brotherly shove is converting every time, use their alignment against them and bounce it outside.

[–] MyDarkestDays88@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I want to see a Hail Mary on the first offensive play of the game.

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[–] flash17k@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a person who love both Rugby and American Football, I am all for the idea of having a lot more laterals. I personally think that neither of the two sports is perfect, but something in between would be really cool. American football, but with more on-field kicking (either to other players or for drop-kick field goals) and more laterals. Also make the PAT kick attempt align with where the TD was scored like rugby does.

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[–] TipTup85@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

RB's being trained to throw out of bounds if they're gonna get tackled for a loss

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[–] CasualRead_43@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Go for it on 4th and 4 and under every time and never kick extra points. Onside kick ever seems to be dead with the new rules though.

[–] BuBBles_the_pyro@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

always take the field goal, the second your on the 40 yard line, get your kicker out. Do this everytime to get the points (especially if your offense is terrible).

Have more back passes, if you have wr1 with the ball deep, have a wr2 behind them so they can throw the ball behind and go onto score a touch down.

Rugby type maul, get 3 O lineman behind a TE, give the ball to the TE and then get the O line to hold them up and keep pushing forward.

Another rugby style, on the restart, have your kicker kick high and semi deep so that your 2 fastest guys have a chance of catching it, I reckon you get a better % of keeping the ball than those silly on-side kicks.

[–] grenamier@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

No punting. Ever. EVER!

[–] Pockstuff@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

More downfield laterals

[–] bsgreene25@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I want more madden cheese in the NFL. Like a team that literally only has 3 personnel packages, 6 unique formations and maybe like 8 plays per formation, many of which are duplicative from one formation to another. And each game they just find the plays that are working that day and just spam them to hell in hurry up.

[–] Tunatron_Prime@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The people calling for more laterals are fucking hilarious. I hope your team does it.

[–] senorvato@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

More Refrigerator Perry type plays. Use an athletic 300 lb man to either take the snap or handoff and get those short yards.

[–] Impressive-Cry-9128@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Recruitment gimmick. NFL scouts going to Japan & Korea (Republic of not DPRK) seeing if Sumo wrestlers can play O line tackles.

Westerners tend to think of Sumo wrestlers as just obese guys trying push eachother around by leaning into eachother. The truth is they really are skilled athletes. Successful ones are able to focus and maintain there center of gravity on par with ballerinas. For such big guys they have incredible athleticism, tremendous balance and their reflexes are as impressive as any athlete in any sport.

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