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In comment sections or in community pages, it's mostly an ocean of default avatars.

As a UI developer, that's always been a gripe because I put a lot of effort into making them look good and scale properly, etc. When I see 60-70% or more accounts sporting the default avatar, it makes me wonder why I even bother.

So, since this bugs me so much, figured I'd just ask.

Lemm.ee users I can understand because of the waiting period for uploads, but AFAIK, most instances don't have that restriction. Even then, there are plenty of .ee accounts that never bother to go back and set one.

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[–] macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

It is irrelevant.

[–] enshu@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I do not see the importance of an avatar.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

As a UI developer, that’s always been a gripe because I put a lot of effort into making them look good and scale properly, etc. When I see 60-70% or more accounts sporting the default avatar, it makes me wonder why I even bother.

You could just do those autogenerated things instead of a static image if they haven't set one. Like, hash their username and use the bits of the hash as an input to some function that procedurally-generates an image. Makes it easy to visually-identify users without needing them to go out and manually create an avatar.

I don't really care much about the visual appearance myself, but I did want something unique to make it easier to visually-identify my posts for other users. Humans can identify color in their visual field in constant time, so having different colors for different users is helpful. I plonked "wave swirl"---the first thing that came to mind---or something like that into Stable Diffusion 1.5, got a picture of a wave, haven't touched it since.

EDIT: For a good example, I always easily identify @Kolanaki@yiffit.net comments, as he's got custom colored Unicode in a display name and a custom avatar and custom background. I don't care enough to go do that myself, but it does highlight the fact that it can be useful for rapidly-identifying people in a conversation.

For those who can't see avatars, he looks like this in the Lemmy Web UI:

I'll add that I don't personally really like the display name functionality, because I need to refer to people in text using "@" syntax---as I did above---by their real username and it makes it slightly more obnoxious to get that, but I do have to say that it does help make users visually unique.

I think that my ideal for user identification would be maybe some sort of procedurally-generated flag as the default. Those are designed to be readily-identifiable at a distance already. Like, use the hash bits to choose one of several different groups of flags (triband, etc) and bits to choose the color of various elements in the flag. If one flag isn't enough to consume all the bits in the hash, maybe do two side-by-side, etc.

EDIT2: Hmm. Now I kind of wonder if that should be done client-side, because it could let the viewing user theme what they're seeing. Like, dark-mode people don't have to have bright flags, if someone wants a specific theme they could use that (a string of different colored cats in different poses), etc.

EDIT3: And I loathe the fact that the Lemmy Web UI by default permits animated avatars. I think I disabled animations somewhere in Firefox specifically because of the people on here using animated avatars. I think that not putting the kibosh on that was a huge mistake.

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[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Because I dont care.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because a lot of people don't see a benefit in being recognized when pseudonymously interacting with strangers. And in some apps they aren't displayed at all.

[–] sibannac@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't even see or care to see avatars. Its just clutter imo.

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[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 9 points 1 week ago

Can't be arsed.

I'm not sure how to, and it's not something I care about enough to figure out how. I generally think of posting here as more shouting into the void, so I don't care very much to personalize my account.

I use Sync. I may be missing out on the perfectly simple UI that was developed to do this.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Tbh I keep meaning to add one but I'm also a wicked procrastinator

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[–] Gumbyyy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I had no idea Lemmy even had avatars until I read this post. So I went into my profile out of curiosity - even though I already had "Show Avatars" checked, I've never seen a user's avatar on here before. I did upload one for my own profile though for the hell of it.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 9 points 1 week ago

I don't see them on the third party app i use

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

I don't even see it on voyager. I don't know why I would want an avatar anyway.

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because it's an anonymous website?

I thought that they were dumb on Reddit and I think they're even dumber here.

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[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 8 points 1 week ago

I've put in as much effort to my profile as I wanted to. Sounds like a lot of others did the same.

[–] tauren@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

With 21x21 avatars, the question is why even have this functionality in the first place. That size is too small to matter.

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[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Hadn’t really thought about it until you asked. Don’t see why it’s worth the bother.

[–] insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My app either doesn't show them or it's off by default. I didn't know there were avatars but I'm not interested in them either since I'm reading on my phone and prefer a minimalist view.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] ptz@dubvee.org 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You actually have an avatar, lol, so you must not be that lazy haha.

[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Are you referring to people's profile pictures as avatars? Otherwise I have no idea what you mean.

[–] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They are oftentimes refered to as the same thing. Avatar came around first IIRC (it was generally an avatar of who you are, not what you actually look like) and slowly morphed into profile picture as social media took over and people forgot about the whole "don't give strangers your personal information" thing.

I still use avatar personally. Older term for same thing

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 6 points 1 week ago

Yeah, profile pictures. In the API data, they're called avatar so that's the term I tend to use.

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[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 6 points 1 week ago

If I care enough about another user to note them across time and communities, I give them a tag.

In the other direction, I don't expect anyone to recall my username from one thread to another, to build any sense of my broader personhood greater than one interaction provides.

An avatar just seems unnecessary. I'm also on an app that only displays them if I go out of my way to see them.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

You guys have avatars?!?

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Wonder the same thing a lot. I change mine up semi-regularly, same with my profile banner, but that's just me being bored.

The thing that drives me insane is when a community doesn't use the icon. The FUCK ARE YOU DOING.

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[–] wosc@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because I hadn't even thought of it.

On Reddit, it changed to something semi-unique and, even though I never changed it, I somehow identified with it.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

On Reddit, it changed to something semi-unique and, even though I never changed it, I somehow identified with it.

That's what Tesseract does; pseudorandom avatars based on the actor ID if the profile hasn't set one. But those are just local, though.

Lol, here's what it generates for yours:

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[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 week ago

Accounts come and go, but shitposting is forever.

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 6 points 1 week ago

I have everyone else's avatars hidden anyway so wouldn't make much sense to set one for myself. I just don't see the appeal.

[–] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There are avatars?

My app do display them, but I hadn't paid attention to it.

[–] zanyllama52@infosec.pub 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I gots one, they're just fun

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[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I have avatars disabled

[–] Nachtnebel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because having a pfp is gay

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[–] Stillwater@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Why would you add one? Who even sees it? This reddit/lemmy style of posting and commenting has always worked with just a username and a comment and I like it that way. If my app started showing them I'd either turn them off or find a new app.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

I have one, but use Voyager so I cannot actually ever see it (nor my changed username)

Not that I care too much, y'all can enjoy how good it looks while you're here but I get to see it everywhere :3

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