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[–] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 32 points 6 days ago (6 children)

I've been playing a good amount of disc golf lately. Why not a disc shape?

  • With proper training, it can be thrown over 100 meters.
  • It can curve around corners.
  • It's fun.
  • It will definitelly hit the very first tree in your path and kill you.
  • it stacks nicely in a backpack.
[–] BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Make these Bionicle disk launchers but military sized.

[–] Generic_Idiot@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

Bruh bionicles were the shit I’d forgotten!

[–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 6 days ago

You know how you can throw a frisbee at an angle that makes it come back to you in a straight line?
An angle that you can easily hit if you try to throw out of a trench...

[–] sowitzer@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

Add some LEDs and feel like you’re playing Tron instead of killing people.

[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Stacks nicely in a backpack? You know how much crap goes in a medium ruck? How's Jenkins gonna find my stash of disk nades under my spare ammo and 'field stripped' MREs? No, I need my grenades quick access, on my chest next to the repurposed saw pouch full of rip-its.

[–] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

Okay, but how about both? 2 discs in the backpack (or medium ruck if you want to be german about it) and a waist of ball nades. Then you have options!

[–] Legume5534@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

No. 4 is proof that you really are a disc golfer.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 22 points 6 days ago

The traditional hand grenade became the standard for the American military because American soldiers grew up playing baseball, and were extremely accurate throwing grenades the same way. American Baseball gave American soldiers an advantage that European and Asian militaries didn't have.

[–] DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 days ago

more expensive building a grenade with a full wood handle and all extra parts is more expensive then ball that go boom

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago

You can also easily string them together into a fancy danger necklace

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

They facist nazi's that used them was destroyed. No one cared about the design of the grenades. Only the rockets and the jet engines.

[–] Paranomaly@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

One reason I've heard it's that you can hold the spoon after pulling the pin on a pineapple grenade, but not on a stick

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Plus, these are huge, not easy to carry several in addition to all your other gear.

[–] shice@lemmy.world 163 points 1 week ago (16 children)

If I remember correctly, the spherical design was mainly created to resemble a baseball. Since most US citizens knew how to throw a baseball at the time it would mean they didn't have to train soldiers as much

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That is a myth. The spherical form is to maximize surface area to volume for shrapnel, ensuring that no matter how it lands. Shrapnel will go in all directions.

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[–] Comrade_Spood@slrpnk.net 118 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The reason is logistics (as usually the reason for most things military related). You can fit a hell of a lot more conventionally shaped grenades in a crate than you can with stick grenades. Even on a person, conventional grenades weigh less, are less cumbersome, and you can carry more compared to stick grenades. Stick grenades really only have their ease of throwing over a conventional grenade

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (14 children)

I wonder if anyone in the military has used a sling to launch a grenade.

You'd want a longer fuse though...

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

According to wikipedia, the International Brigades used slings to hurl grenades during the Spanish American War. I've heard tell of Ethiopian troops using slings to launch grenades, but can't find a source.

And I know people have launched molotovs from slings, which are larger and more unwieldy, unless we're talking about the German example above with a handle.

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[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 74 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Interesting question.

The stick design provides leverage for throwing longer distances, but at the cost of additional weight and length, and has been considered obsolete by western countries since the Second World War and Cold War periods.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenade

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I doubt you can throw them further. Has a lot more drag and is less dense than modern grenades.

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[–] SnortsGarlicPowder@lemmy.zip 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

Long wooden handles don't go boom. Wasted space.

The grenade pouch has to be much longer to house them or the grenades are hung on a belt that can cause movement issues.

Throwing a ball is about as easy as throwing a stick. So no point for the stick shape.

Sticks don't go as far.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Throwing a ball is about as easy as throwing a stick.

Yeah but the stick goes further because all the weight is at the end so it gets more momentum on the same throwing arc

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Eh, the extra momentum probably doesn't overcome the extra weight and drag created by the handle. People are comparing it to an atlatl, but you're throwing an aerodynamic object with the atlatl, not the atlatl along with the spear.

More than likely the biggest reason is just logistics, extra weight, extra space, additional steps in fabrication.

[–] Hazmatastic@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Catapult vs trebuchet. The extra rotation point makes a world of difference.

Agree that the benefits dont quite outweigh the space issue though.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Can't roll it into a bunker or small window.

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[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

can give you pleasure

ofc anon thought of that

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 32 points 1 week ago (6 children)

What about one of those long spoony "scoop" type things that people use to throw balls at the dog park?

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