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[–] myrmidex@lemmy.nogods.be 2 points 21 minutes ago

Lol! Rail servives in my little shitstain country of Belgium get 3.2B € a year.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 18 points 9 hours ago

My understanding is that the train system and automotive sector are kind of opposite.

For automotive, the government does the roads and private industry does the vehicles.

Conversely, the rails are largely private industry excluding Amtrak, and Amtrak is mostly responsible for the trains with their government granted monopoly on passenger rail.

It's part of what really limits passenger rail, the companies that own the rail mostly want to rail from places like ports, and negligible value for rail between population centers. Also Amtrak has to suck it up if a rail is busy (wasnt supposed to be the case, but cargo operators were allowed to make trains too long to fit on bypass spurs so they can't get out of the way like they were legally required to).

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 22 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Not only are the proportions really misguided, but the thing is even the road funding is too low. We’re way behind in infrastructure, and yes we still need to be able to get around with personal vehicles

[–] magiccupcake@lemmy.world 34 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Ironically the reason we can't keep up with car infrastructure is because there's too much of it.

It much more costly to maintain, especially when scaling to more lanes.

Reducing space given to cars and giving more to bikes/buses/trains would make it easier to upkeep our current roads.

[–] Crankenstein@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

Just saw the video from "Not Just Bikes" a few days ago on this exact topic.

The biggest middle finger is that everyone of the people behind these projects knew it would become too expensive to maintain but they all decided it wasn't their problem to solve cause by then they would be long since retired from their position by the time it became a relevant issue.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 15 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Not only that but suburban areas are actually built using loans that can't be paid back bc suburban areas produce so little taxes they aren't self sustaining

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

That's the thing that gets me about the "but I want to live in a single-family house, not an apartment" people: it's like, sure, that'd be fine if you were willing to actually pay for the true cost of it instead of forcing society to subsidize your lifestyle!

[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

If it would have included state/local would that make the relative distance bigger or smaller?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 7 hours ago