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The protest movement in the United States is growing, but so is the global authoritarian playbook it’s up against.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 103 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The idea being promoted here is that Americans can sit on the sidelines.

In-fact, if you look at recent history, the ONLY things that have stopped authoritarians is mass protest.

[–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

If we protest he'll send in the troops so that he can have his goons grab people off the streets.

If we don't protest, he'll have his goons grab people off the streets.

Seems like protesting puts an obstacle and the goons grabbing.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

Protesting also prepares communities to escalate resistance when necessary

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Invasion and occupation by another country has a decent track record, too

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Look if Canada wants to save us from ourselves no one will stop them

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

Operation 86

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

The US armed forces might want to have a word about this tho

[–] thehowlingnorth@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

We're too bitter about Florida winning the Stanley Cup twice.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's more likely to go the other way. The US is 1930s Germany and Canada is Poland.

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

We might be making notes on how to be Vietnam or Afghanistan instead. Americans are our friends, unless they decide not to be.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yup. Same as all those fearmongering 'YOU WANT A WAR WITH X?!?' each time a post critical of X is raised.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

He will use any excuse, whether people protest or not. He will say it's a rebellion if people just disagree with him politely.

The more people are willing to speak up and stand up, the less control he actually has. The more we cower in fear over what he might do when he's going to do it anyway the more power we're actually giving him.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

If a bully calls you names, you can ignore him.

If he starts punching you in the dick, you can still take the highroad.

But when the bully is kidnapping people and sticking them in their basement and you never see them again...

It stops mattering if they were looking for a fight.

At some point a fight is the only way to stop the violence.

[–] GoobyMcMooby@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 weeks ago

The brazen escalation since taking power shows that they are instigating. They are not just using rhetoric. They want to hypernormalize masked goons dragging people out of courthouses, out of legislative buildings. This is everything that alt right people claimed was happening (it wasn’t) and now are doing it themselves because if they don’t wield the one ring then their perceived enemies (their countrymen) will. They are deluded at best and malicious at worst.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

If he starts punching you in the dick, you can still take the highroad.

I'm sorry, what's the high road here?

At some point a fight is the only way to stop the violence.

The brutal truth that too many liberals don't want to accept is that we can't Vote our way through this.

[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 6 points 2 weeks ago

It’s as if there should probably be some short, somber, but eloquent poem about this very thing.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago

Personally, I don't like being punched in the dick. But I understand there are people who do.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 39 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What's the trap? I read that thing and I still have no idea. We embarrassed tf out of trump on his birthday. He had to tease that he's starting a war with Iran to make himself feel better about it.

This is a job he has that the republicans can fire him from at any point. Protesting is letting the republicans, who are never safe even if trump is, know that their jobs are also on the line.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago

"Don't protest authoritarianism or else they'll be authoritarian!!!" mother fucker they ALREADY ARE! THAT'S WHY WE'RE PROTESTING

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

Can't make this shit up

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago

Shut up. "You're giving him the excuse to do what he was going to do if you had done nothing" is a shitty argument to make.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Oh nooo if we protest then he gets to declare martial law

And if we don't protest then he declares martial law

Ohhhh noooooo

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 9 points 2 weeks ago

Go into a trap prepared, and let the coward fall when it backfires.

Trump and his whole lot must die.

[–] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 weeks ago

This sounds like when they used to tell women that if they’re attacked by a rapist, not to fight back because then the rapist might get mad and kill them.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 8 points 2 weeks ago

It's the double edged sword... bottom line, he gets us to protest, he'll use it to declare martial law to get what he wants.

If we dont protest, he'll use our inaction as approval and continue pushing and throwing the law out the window so it doesn't effect him and his power grows more anyway.

There is no easy path to victory, his side has contingencies for most anything we can do... all we can do is do it stronger than they anticipate.

[–] Punchshark@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago

Buy the ticket, take the ride

[–] thehowlingnorth@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

He's trying the "reverse psychology" method.