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[–] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Everyone behind the silver car at the parking lot entrance is illegally blocking the road. Regardless of the car culture problem or OP's disingenuous use of a CoViD era image out of context, those people needed to go away. If you can't get your coffee without parking in the street, you don't get coffee at that location at that time. Safety is more important than someone getting their sugar/caffeine fix.

[–] defaultsamson@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The legality really depends on the jurisdiction. Where I live, it is 100% the business responsibility to ensure this doesn't happen, and if it does, there are big fines for the business, the customer is not at fault.

Plenty of things the business could do to reduce this, such as making people park up after ordering (a very popular option where I live), increasing prices to reduce their demand, having a digital queue system, removing the drive-through altogether, etc.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Business passes small bribe to local politician

"No longer our problem"

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[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

They just need to add one more lane, bro.

[–] DarthKaren@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

I was ready to go in here and say I won't get out of my car until I see the others in my group show up to whatever place we're eating. I've got some social anxiety issues though.

This though...this is fucking stupid. I see this shit at coffee stands like Dutch Bros all the time. They have a walk up window. It's like 5x faster to get the fuck out of your car, order at the window, and walk away with your sugar bomb.

The same with fast food. My wife worked at BK on an AFB for a long time. Airmen would line up in the drive through. Inside was near empty. Same deal. It'd be much faster to get out of my truck, go in, order my shit, and leave. Then they'd have the audacity to complain that the place was "wasting their lunch break." Bitch, there's a commissary with fresh sushi in it, always stocked, a made to order deli sub place in the back, and lots of other healthy things. You could also bring your own food from home. You could also get out of the fucking car and get it.

I'm not fully anti car as everyone on here, though I do get it and wish there was better mass transit and walkable areas. I do think vehicles have their uses, and that MT isn't an option for everyone. That said, this type of shit is stupid af. Stop clogging up the roads. Stop wasting gas. Stop polluting with your idling bullshit (I'm seeing at least 3 gas guzzlers in the pic in the comments.)

This is also incredibly dangerous. Blocking a lane causes backups further down. It causes people to have to merge into other lanes. Often times people don't pay attention and dodge at the last minute, or they get frustrated/angry and make stupid decisions.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They call it the Chair Force for a reason. Getting up and walking would go against their ethos.

[–] DarthKaren@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Was chair force, I can confirm. There were a lot of lazy ass people.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 days ago

Most people here are not totally against cars. We're mainly against car-centric design. Of course cars have uses, specially for the disabled.

[–] betahack@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Dutch bros isn't coffee lol it's sugar water with flavoring

[–] DarthKaren@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I always tell my wife she can save money and just eat out of the bag of sugar we have at home.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Drive through times are often prioritized

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

So many places do order ahead now, though. I don't go to starbucks often, but when I do, I order ahead from my house, ride over on my electric board, walk in, grab my already made drink, and leave. In and out of the building in 15 seconds. Meanwhile, the drive-through extends through the entire parking lot barely moving. Absolute chumps.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Just yesterday I wanted to go out to see my "local" town. I ended up going out for about 3 hours, 2 or which were "sitting" in the car commuting from a "livley" area to another "lively" area.

Business like the one shown in this photo posted by OP have become to far apart from one another, separate by seas of parking and 8 lanes of pavement.

Its astonishing that this is considered "normal" in North America. Just going to the local Walmart to get some milk can take about a hour or two of your day.

Walking is almost out of the question, just imaging leaving the Walmart that is probably located on the other side to arrive at the front door of this coffee chain.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I remember this picture. It was from the opening of some mediocre but popular burger chain. They had the doors closed and it was drive through only that day if I'm recalling it correctly.

[–] GratefullyGodless@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Um...you can literally see the Starbucks logo on the side of the building.

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[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

As others have pointed out, this is a Starbucks, but take a look at this photo I took a couple months ago. It was a line for an In-N-Out burger that was not even new, but it was the longest drive-through line I've ever seen. It was like ~500 feet long and split off into four separate lanes that all filtered into two main lanes that they actually took your order at. I was across the street getting Chipotle and I spent about 15 minutes inside watching this line and all of these cars only move forward by about one car length. I guesstimate that these people are gonna be waiting in line for two plus hours and that fucking blows my mind.

And the fuckers were spilling into the main road blocking traffic.

"America is worth fighting for!"

America:

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

No that isn't the picture I'm talking about. What I really love about this is I don't care enough to go find the drone shot I was talking about and the rage I'm seeing about this is childish.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 1 points 5 days ago

Chill bro, I was just talking to you and giving you a personal example of my own.

[–] mo_lave@reddthat.com 3 points 6 days ago

What tunnel vision does to a mf

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If there's a line like this in the drive through I just move on. The inside is gonna be even slower than just waiting for drive through.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (8 children)

I commonly see these drive thru lines and walk inside. No line.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Idk every time I've gone inside when a line is like this there won't be many people inside but the order will still take forever for some reason.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's because there are 3 or 4 cars in the line between the order kiosk and the window who have already ordered before you walked in the door. When you walk in, you jump the line of cars before the order kiosk. But there aren't separate queues for counter and drive thru in the kitchen. They just see a list of orders in the order in which they were received, and process orders more or less FIFO.

If there are cars behind the order kiosk, you are almost certainly getting your order faster than if you had joined at the end of the line.

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago

I love me a drive thru when I'm so exhausted I don't want to get out of the car. Car has comfy seats and HVAC. Normally I do prefer going in to get the order faster though.

[–] PixelPilgrim@lemmings.world 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Is this Starbucks in the middle of 4 road intersection

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago

They really will put them anywhere and everywhere lol.

[–] Gibibit@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Yeah how else are you gonna get there /s

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 1 points 6 days ago

Fast food has destaffed their registers so even with this line it is probably faster to drive through than to wait to order before you wait for your deprioritized food

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